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www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/5924
SAINTS have named their 19-man squad for Sunday's First Utility Super League Round Thirteen match at Castleford Tigers.
Dominque Peyroux has been recalled following injury alongside Jordan Turner.
Keiron Cunningham will select his 17 from:
1. Jonny Lomax, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Mark Percival, 7. Luke Walsh, 8. Alex Walmsley, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 11. Atelea Vea, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Lama Tasi, 15. Greg Richards, 18. Dominque Peyroux, 19. Theo Fages, 20. Joe Greenwood, 21. Matty Dawson, 22. Jack Owens, 23. Shannon McDonnell, 28. Morgan Knowles.
Turner back in the squad, will he get a run out wide on the wing. In a way Turner is the best option for a back on the bench at the moment as he can play in the pack for a short spell and provide cover across the whole back line.
Not excelling at anything at the moment, but competent cover on the bench.
Peyroux back too. Seems to have had some harsh press from the fans in the last month or two. Not sure why as whilst he is far from blistering he has seemed more than capable at centre.
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www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/5924
SAINTS have named their 19-man squad for Sunday's First Utility Super League Round Thirteen match at Castleford Tigers.
Dominque Peyroux has been recalled following injury alongside Jordan Turner.
Keiron Cunningham will select his 17 from:
1. Jonny Lomax, 3. Jordan Turner, 4. Mark Percival, 7. Luke Walsh, 8. Alex Walmsley, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 11. Atelea Vea, 12. Jon Wilkin, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Lama Tasi, 15. Greg Richards, 18. Dominque Peyroux, 19. Theo Fages, 20. Joe Greenwood, 21. Matty Dawson, 22. Jack Owens, 23. Shannon McDonnell, 28. Morgan Knowles.
Turner back in the squad, will he get a run out wide on the wing. In a way Turner is the best option for a back on the bench at the moment as he can play in the pack for a short spell and provide cover across the whole back line.
Not excelling at anything at the moment, but competent cover on the bench.
Peyroux back too. Seems to have had some harsh press from the fans in the last month or two. Not sure why as whilst he is far from blistering he has seemed more than capable at centre.
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Lomax
Owens Percival Peyroux SMD
Fages Walsh
Amor Roby Tasi
Greenwood LMS
Wilkin
Knowles Vea Richards Walmsley
Owens and SMD will be asked to perform the same role again to protect Lomax. The only doubt is Dawson v Peyroux v Turner for the second centre position. All have their pros and cons, but I think Peyroux is worth his start here I think
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Same team that Magic Superbeetle has stated. Only swap I can see is Walmsley starting and Amor on the bench.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Lomax
Owens Percival Peyroux SMD
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Amor Roby Tasi
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Knowles Vea Richards Walmsley
Owens and SMD will be asked to perform the same role again to protect Lomax. The only doubt is Dawson v Peyroux v Turner for the second centre position. All have their pros and cons, but I think Peyroux is worth his start here I think'"
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I would not play owens.
I think he needs time out.
I do believe in the rotation of the forwards, but generally for the backs I think you earn the shirt until you lose it.
For me Owens has not earned the shirt, he got it through injury and he has not shown enough to deny another player the opportunity.
I thought Dawson went off injured last week, so if he is 100% then maybe him over Peyroux as he has earned a shirt.
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I think we can be sure the back 3 is Owens, McDonnell and Lomax. They'll continue as they did last week with Owens and McDonnell sweeping to full back in defence.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I would not play owens.
I think he needs time out.
I do believe in the rotation of the forwards, but generally for the backs I think you earn the shirt until you lose it.
For me Owens has not earned the shirt, he got it through injury and he has not shown enough to deny another player the opportunity.
I thought Dawson went off injured last week, so if he is 100% then maybe him over Peyroux as he has earned a shirt.'"
As I said, we used quite a complicated set up with Owens and SMD to give Lomax as easy a time as possible. The difference between Dawson and Owens isn't sufficient to risk that system failing and exposing Lomax - Swift is due back soon and that should be in time for Lomax to take more on.
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Well last night was a decent set of results for Saints. A win on Sunday puts us back in the mix
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We've got to start with big Alex. He's in awful form since coming off the bench most weeks. Imo he's a starting prop.
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He has had no pre-season due to his injury, so maybe a week off would do him good.
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Quote ="St pete"We are now in may. I'm sure he'd be match fit by now. I don't think he's happy at the moment.'"
Doesn't sound like it? (Sketchy source I know!) www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby-league ... -St-Helens
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Doesn't sound like it? (Sketchy source I know!) www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby-league ... -St-Helens
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I'm sure being fit is likely.
(I'm not a training expert)
But I'd have thought you build up muscle mass in preseason etc which can be caught up during the season.
I recall when I used to go to friendlies that the players always looked bigger due to lots of weight training in pre season.
Players who miss pre season due to injury or internationals do tend to struggle more the following season, but maybe that's just my mind fooling me.
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Quote ="bewareshadows"I'm sure being fit is likely.
(I'm not a training expert)
But I'd have thought you build up muscle mass in preseason etc which can be caught up during the season.
I recall when I used to go to friendlies that the players always looked bigger due to lots of weight training in pre season.
Players who miss pre season due to injury or internationals do tend to struggle more the following season, but maybe that's just my mind fooling me.'"
It's very very difficult to gain mass and strength during the season, because you can't really train as hard with the weights if your first 1-2 days of the week are recovering for a game and then you can't do much towards the end of the week because of the game coming up.
There's also a study that has come out recently on Super League players ( www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27075963) which shows for every additional 10 pre-season sessions participated in, the chance of injury is 17% lower. Missing a pre-season can be huge for a player. |
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Quote ="bewareshadows"I'm sure being fit is likely.
(I'm not a training expert)
But I'd have thought you build up muscle mass in preseason etc which can be caught up during the season.
I recall when I used to go to friendlies that the players always looked bigger due to lots of weight training in pre season.
Players who miss pre season due to injury or internationals do tend to struggle more the following season, but maybe that's just my mind fooling me.'"
It's very very difficult to gain mass and strength during the season, because you can't really train as hard with the weights if your first 1-2 days of the week are recovering for a game and then you can't do much towards the end of the week because of the game coming up.
There's also a study that has come out recently on Super League players ( www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27075963) which shows for every additional 10 pre-season sessions participated in, the chance of injury is 17% lower. Missing a pre-season can be huge for a player. | |
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Sorry typing on my phone should have been can't rather than can.
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Defenses on top. Tries just from kicks.
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Two wins and the boards fall silent.
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Is everyone on holiday who used to post on here?
Or have most people migrated to RedVee?
Hardly anything has been posted about yesterday's winning match or much else.
I know for example that Widnes supporters don't really use the RL Fans site and they have their own fan site. Is this just a general drift way to fan sites? Is it to avoid trolls?
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Is everyone on holiday who used to post on here?
Or have most people migrated to RedVee?
Hardly anything has been posted about yesterday's winning match or much else.
I know for example that Widnes supporters don't really use the RL Fans site and they have their own fan site. Is this just a general drift way to fan sites? Is it to avoid trolls?'"
Quiet day on redvee too.
Combination of it being a win, small away game, low expectations of cas, it's a bank holiday weekend,
People just got better things to do, and it runs against the current online narrative of all is bad, we will struggle to make top 8 never mind top 4 and everything Cunningham does must be wrong.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Quiet day on redvee too.
Combination of it being a win, small away game, low expectations of cas, it's a bank holiday weekend,
People just got better things to do, and it runs against the current online narrative of all is bad, we will struggle to make top 8 never mind top 4 and everything Cunningham does must be wrong.
Just wait till we lose then people will have the motivation.'"
Maybe people are just bored of saints and bored of super league in general. I'm finding it very hard to watch full 80 min games on sky and as I've said on here before I've lost interest in watching saints due to being very bored.
Been a season ticket holder for God knows how many years and this year is first year I've not gone a home game. I don't go any away games these days which I usually go 80% of away games.
I don't know if it's just me falling out of love with super league or the game is as poor as it's coming across to me but I'm definitely bored at our games. |
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I can't comment on non-TV games, which rather restricts my contributions. Sorry.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Is everyone on holiday who used to post on here?
Or have most people migrated to RedVee?
Hardly anything has been posted about yesterday's winning match or much else.
I know for example that Widnes supporters don't really use the RL Fans site and they have their own fan site. Is this just a general drift way to fan sites? Is it to avoid trolls?'"
I think its a combination of other sources of social media and super league being a bit stale these days, also nearly every team has loads of first choice players missing through injury so there isn't much excitement to write home about.
Warrington are the most active forum for obvious reasons, for us we are just ticking over until something exciting happens which might only happen until the business end of the season. |
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| Quote ="St pete"Maybe people are just bored of saints and bored of super league in general. I'm finding it very hard to watch full 80 min games on sky and as I've said on here before I've lost interest in watching saints due to being very bored.
Been a season ticket holder for God knows how many years and this year is first year I've not gone a home game. I don't go any away games these days which I usually go 80% of away games.
I don't know if it's just me falling out of love with super league or the game is as poor as it's coming across to me but I'm definitely bored at our games.'"
Well you missed a very entertaining game yesterday at Cas.
Quite a few errors and we didn't play particularly well first half, but a great final quarter from the lads to fight back from 20-12 down.
The final try from Lomax was a gem. Walsh's field and place kicking was excellent and he even made a number of front on one on one tackles. Glimpses from Percival that he is getting back to his best. Lomax is definitely giving us an extra dimension going forward.
One worry is Walmsley's lack of minutes. I don't know whether he is carrying a knock or not.
All in all some every encouraging signs.
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