Enough is enough. This guy tonight was appalling. Slow cumbersome and disinterested. Losing the ball in first tackle twice, shocking work rate and the way he slumbered back to a scrum was embarrassing. Stealing money.
Would I tell him to his face - yes then wander off slowly - I would still beat him! Worst by far of a shocking bunch.

Yeah he was. Was Wellens any different? Turning his back in defense over and over, failing to motivate the players or do anything of any worth all game. Turner as well? Nathan Brown is also a joke and needs to go, we're a club heading nowhere very quickly.

I don,t think you can single out one particular player, Amor and Sol were just as bad, our best forward was Dawson and he was injured.

He wasn't the worst but given he was one of our big money marquee signings we should expect more and he deserves picking out. Thomson for instance gives 100% plus.

Jones was descent though.

A poor mans Feka says it all really

a good few had shocking games, but Mose was amongst them

Masoe and lance were horrible

Mose was garbbage but name me a player who wasn't last night?
Mcmanus needs to be ruthless and have a clear out?

Cunningham would be one of them as he can't coach for toffee, his statue could have tackled better than his forwards last night?

It's strange but for some reason really big guys like him do often tend to be a bit soft and disinterested. Watching on tv we said in first half how poor he had been. Then he came back on and made a couple of really good carries and I thought he must be trying to make a point. Then on the third carry he dropped the ball and Warrington scored from it.

He was crap IMO.

Mose was very poor last night (as were 16 other "players" out there on the field), but to call him a disgrace on the back of that is a bit harsh, especially when he has made pretty good yards over the past couple of months for us...

If you want a disgrace, how about looking at Alex Walmsley? Is it just me, or does he seem to have gone abckwards since the start of the season? The bloke is 23 years old and doesnt seem capable of playing longer than 10 minutes without needing a rest...

Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"It's strange but for some reason really big guys like him do often tend to be a bit soft and disinterested. Watching on tv we said in first half how poor he had been. =#FF0000Then he came back on and made a couple of really good carries and I thought he must be trying to make a point. Then on the third carry he dropped the ball and Warrington scored from it.'" He only made 52 metres in the match and I guess 40 of those were the "carries" from a drop out return and a kick off. he certainly doesn't like the hard work carrying the ball out from his own 20 under pressure. www.superleague.co.uk/report/10074

Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"It's strange but for some reason really big guys like him do often tend to be a bit soft and disinterested. Watching on tv we said in first half how poor he had been. =#FF0000Then he came back on and made a couple of really good carries and I thought he must be trying to make a point. Then on the third carry he dropped the ball and Warrington scored from it.'" He only made 52 metres in the match and I guess 40 of those were the "carries" from a drop out return and a kick off. he certainly doesn't like the hard work carrying the ball out from his own 20 under pressure. www.superleague.co.uk/report/10074

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He only made 52 metres in the match and I guess 40 of those were the "carries" from a drop out return and a kick off. he certainly doesn't like the hard work carrying the ball out from his own 20 under pressure. www.superleague.co.uk/report/10074'" I don't recall him taking the run-in from a kick off all match. He made I think two good runs, the other carries he was crunched within a second of taking the ball.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He only made 52 metres in the match and I guess 40 of those were the "carries" from a drop out return and a kick off. he certainly doesn't like the hard work carrying the ball out from his own 20 under pressure. www.superleague.co.uk/report/10074'" I don't recall him taking the run-in from a kick off all match. He made I think two good runs, the other carries he was crunched within a second of taking the ball.

To be honest I thought he was tackling quite well yesterday. His first stint on the field I'm not sure if he even got a run. We just seemed to tackle and tackle. But yep he was as dross as the backs yesterday, who I thought really hampered the forwards as they kept turning over most of the ball.

I was most disappointed with Soliola, who just seemed to be going through the motions

I think that it was straight from the kick off in the second half.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He only made 52 metres in the match and I guess 40 of those were the "carries" from a drop out return and a kick off. he certainly doesn't like the hard work carrying the ball out from his own 20 under pressure. www.superleague.co.uk/report/10074'" An average gain of 8.67m per carry...only Waterhouse in the forwards had a better average last night. Mose had a bad game and came up with 2 errors, but a player like him isn't there as a battering ram for the hard yards in our own half (yes I agree he could contribute more, but that isnt why we signed him). Masoe is most dangerous in the opposition 20 on the back of a quick play the ball...neither of which we had last night. As I said above, I would worry about Walmsley's lack of ability to play longer than 10 minutes without needing a rest more than our other forwards as that is simply not good enough at SL level

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He only made 52 metres in the match and I guess 40 of those were the "carries" from a drop out return and a kick off. he certainly doesn't like the hard work carrying the ball out from his own 20 under pressure. www.superleague.co.uk/report/10074'" An average gain of 8.67m per carry...only Waterhouse in the forwards had a better average last night. Mose had a bad game and came up with 2 errors, but a player like him isn't there as a battering ram for the hard yards in our own half (yes I agree he could contribute more, but that isnt why we signed him). Masoe is most dangerous in the opposition 20 on the back of a quick play the ball...neither of which we had last night. As I said above, I would worry about Walmsley's lack of ability to play longer than 10 minutes without needing a rest more than our other forwards as that is simply not good enough at SL level

But he only made six carries and two of those were the 20 metre ones I referred to from a kick off and a drop out. If you take those out then it would be 12 metres from 4 carries!!!

Pendentry corner: Was Jones DECENT ( i.e. not too bad ) or DESCENT ( going down)?

I agree Walmsley always looks knackered after a couple of runs, Amor is not far behind either he can,t do any hard yards anymore on returning from injury, over the last 4 weeks only LMS, Flanagan and Roby are playing to any standard.
Biggest problem now is due to all our playmakers injured our big forwards are not getting the ball on the charge instead its a flat attack with the forwards getting the ball semi static..........result they get gang tackled and no quick play the ball.
In defence as most have mentioned we allow the opposition to come to us with impact instead of moving up before they get momentum, the coaching staff and players know this so why are they not doing something about it.

Mc Manus looked as though he was going to explode last night, I get the feeling a lot is going to be said behind close doors, we await the response next week. I,ve been a season ticket holder for over 20 years, if this team play with this kind of effort in the next 3 games, then its time to say Bye Bye Season Ticket.

While we're at it, was Masoe UNINTERESTED (i.e. not bothered) or DISINTERESTED (i.e. impartial)?

Given how horrible we were as a team singling out Mosoe is a bit unfair

He was amongst the worst so I think its fair. He was awful.

Quote ="No1 Saint"Given how horrible we were as a team singling out Mosoe is a bit unfair'" How did the awesome foursome go last night? Fielden, Vagana, Anderson and McDermott would still have the beating of them if they met now. www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... e-foursome

Quote ="No1 Saint"Given how horrible we were as a team singling out Mosoe is a bit unfair'" How did the awesome foursome go last night? Fielden, Vagana, Anderson and McDermott would still have the beating of them if they met now. www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... e-foursome