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| Just watched his interview after the game
He was furious.
The attitude problems are so clear for everyone to see.
Not sure what is going on behind the scenes but I think something needs to be said along the lines of, whoever doesnt sure 100% commitment for 80 mins will be dropped.
Cant help but think Wello needs to come on around 20 mins into the first half.
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| Quote ="saintcj"Just watched his interview after the game
He was furious.
The attitude problems are so clear for everyone to see.
Not sure what is going on behind the scenes but I think something needs to be said along the lines of, whoever doesnt sure 100% commitment for 80 mins will be dropped.
Cant help but think Wello needs to come on around 20 mins into the first half.'"
Wello needs to start this weekend - we need a captain on the pitch from the off - which is why I would have him at fullback in Lomax's absence.
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| He needs to be released. Look at his own attitude when he threw the ridiculously poor interception pass. He offers nothing.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He needs to be released. Look at his own attitude when he threw the ridiculously poor interception pass. He offers nothing.'"
Give over, we were in the middle of chasing down a three score deficit with 8 minutes left! I think a little damage may have already been done before then . . . . .
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| The game on Sunday was crying out for Wello after about 15 minutes. The influence and leadership he brings to the team is irreplaceable at the moment as we dont have anybody else who can do that in our team. Cas away is a good example of how he can steady the ship and lift us when we need it and we were desperate for that last week and Brown brought him on way too late.
I agree with FTV and would have him back at 1 for tomorrows game, although I expect more chance of Lance to 1 and Wello at 6 with Brown picking the team.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He needs to be released. Look at his own attitude when he threw the ridiculously poor interception pass. He offers nothing.'"
The game had gone by then, most of the damage was done whilst he was sat on the bench. Like I've said before play him for 60 mins so he can captain the side or don't play him at all, the way he is being used by Brown is not doing anybody any good.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Wello needs to start this weekend - we need a captain on the pitch from the off - which is why I would have him at fullback in Lomax's absence.'"
Totally agree we need him on the pitch from the off, to guide the team
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| How does he guide the team though? He isn't vocal and doesn't inspire anyone.
If he played fullback, the forwards would have to find another 15m per set after he had fielded the kick returns.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"If he played fullback, the forwards would have to find another 15m per set after he had fielded the kick returns.'"
The exercise will do them good.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"How does he guide the team though? He isn't vocal and doesn't inspire anyone.'"
Pretty sure that the players, coach, chairman and CEO disagree in regards to his leadership. Few of the younger players will certainly disagree.
That's one side of his game that can't be criticised, despite the performances and results of late.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
If he played fullback, the forwards would have to find another 15m per set after he had fielded the kick returns.'"
Yes but he reads the play better and will take up the ball 15metres earlier than Lomax and theres a 99% certainty that he won,t let a difficult high ball bounce.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"How does he guide the team though? He isn't vocal and doesn't inspire anyone.
If he played fullback, the forwards would have to find another 15m per set after he had fielded the kick returns.'"
Better than hohaia, they'd have to run another 15m and 6 more tackles
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| Lomax runs sideways anyway. I think Well should come on early doors. Organise the defence from the FB position. Wello is very vocal on the pitch so not sure about that comment.
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| I'd start with wello against hudds at 13. We need a drastic change of attitude and maybe wello can change that from the get go.
Let's be honest, he can't be any worse than than the Backrow at present and no matter what we think of him ability wise these days, he's certainly a saint thru and thru.
He wants to play, so give him a shot I say.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'd start with wello against hudds at 13. We need a drastic change of attitude and maybe wello can change that from the get go.
Let's be honest, he can't be any worse than than the Backrow at present and no matter what we think of him ability wise these days, he's certainly a saint thru and thru.
He wants to play, so give him a shot I say.'"
Agreed, and by putting him at first reciever it opens up options for Walsh and hohaia in second and third reciever - and he'd probably at least try and take some of the defensive load off Roby.
Let's be honest were running short of back row options you'd actually want playing!
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Agreed, and by putting him at first reciever it opens up options for Walsh and hohaia in second and third reciever - and he'd probably at least try and take some of the defensive load off Roby.
Let's be honest were running short of back row options you'd actually want playing!'"
I wouldn't have him at 1st receiver, in fact I'd have him nowhere near the ball playing.
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| Quote ="St pete"I wouldn't have him at 1st receiver, in fact I'd have him nowhere near the ball playing.'"
Well we need someone to! Who would you rather ...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Well we need someone to! Who would you rather ...'"
I've not even looked at the squad but obviously Walsh in the halves with Hohaia or wheeler would be the obvious pairing (is Percy back ? ).
Wello can't ball handle, he couldn't do it as 19yr old and can't do it now. He's not a ball player.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Well we need someone to! Who would you rather ...'"
Why wouldn't you have Walsh at 1st receiver?
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| Quote ="Dux"Why wouldn't you have Walsh at 1st receiver?'"
Walsh is far better at second reciever, more space and more options (in theory) - these days first receivers job is to get the ball away from the ruck,,,
I must profess I did forget about wheeler though!
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| Quote ="Dux"Why wouldn't you have Walsh at 1st receiver?'"
I take it that question is for magic superbeetle?
I've no problem with Walsh at first receiver but I get what superbeetle is getting at. He wants Walsh wider so he's the player giving the money shot passes which in theory is good but with wello/Wilkin/Hohaia/wheeler in at 1st receiver means that by the time we hit Walsh he'd be snotted as none have quick hands or quick minded.
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| Quote ="St pete"I take it that question is for magic superbeetle?
I've no problem with Walsh at first receiver but I get what superbeetle is getting at. He wants Walsh wider so he's the player giving the money shot passes which in theory is good but with wello/Wilkin/Hohaia/wheeler in at 1st receiver means that by the time we hit Walsh he'd be snotted as none have quick hands or quick minded.'"
Yeah, it was. I like Walsh at 1st receiver where he can have a more dominant role in the side and get good, clean service to the likes of Lomax.
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| Quote ="Dux"Yeah, it was. I like Walsh at 1st receiver where he can have a more dominant role in the side and get good, clean service to the likes of Lomax.'"
Agreed.
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| Quote ="Dux"Yeah, it was. I like Walsh at 1st receiver where he can have a more dominant role in the site and get good, clean service to the likes of Lomax.'"
Walsh(1st reciever) to lomax(3rd pivot) requires a middle man (so far this season it's usually been hohaia) - as st.pete says, getting Walsh into positions where the money ball is on is our best chance this week imo, rather than long sweeping across field moves (were far too disjointed at the moment, and missing far too many)
Walsh has shown he can exploit space, so second pivot is a great place to have him (assuming someone can provide him with clean, quick ball throughout the game), as well as control a game from there - there's going to be a lot on his shoulders tomorrow, but I suppose that's what we brought him in for...
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Walsh has shown he can exploit space, so second pivot is a great place to have him (assuming someone can provide him with clean, quick ball throughout the game), as well as control a game from there - there's going to be a lot on his shoulders tomorrow, but I suppose that's what we brought him in for...'"
Yep. But he won't be able to do too much if the forwards take another day off and people do dumb stuff like throw passes to nobody.
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