I have seen the post match interview with N.B. He was very honest and rather scathing of certain players who he stated were underachieving. Who are your picks from today's game. Mine are, Roby was not looking for work as is usual, Lms and Flaners ineffective, Turner just not at the races. Others I thought had poor games too but to me the four I have named stood out.

It's hard to call Roby, he's definitely not his usual self re passes etc put even in this form he's in the top 10 in SL
LMS is bloody awful, cant half tell he got a new deal last year
We are a (as i said before the game) a different team without Amor
Dawson played well, very surprised that most of wigans breaks and tries came down the other side
Turner had a mare 2-3 /10 defensively absolutely shocking! the worst defensive display i've ever seen from a top class centre that he is!

I don't rate Dawson. Poor in defence and offers nothing in attack. He's decent winger but I'd never play him centre and prefer Ade on the wing.

The players I feel Brown is referring to are - Turner, Lms, Flanaghan, Wilkin.

LMS was the worst player by a long way on the pitch today. Turner just lacks application for me, he has the build and skill to be a good player but does not apply himself consistently.

I thought Dawson was one of your better players today.

Not sure if i'd go that far but i don't quite understand where he is getting all this abuse from.

He offers nothing. We missed Swift big time. Dawson can't beat a man and awful in defence. I'm not faulting him for effort but he's not good enough against the likes of Wigan, Leeds and Warrington.

Turner a top class centre

really?

He has a good back handed flick but makes way too many errors to be classed in that bracket imo. He was shocking at Cas last week and not much better today especially in defence.

He's developed from his time at Hull and might get there one day but he's a way off at the moment.

m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3970 I think we might find out Monday "who they are".

m.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3970 I think we might find out Monday "who they are".

You've rode your luck for at least the last 2 weeks, it ran out today.
On top of that we were on fire all over the field, especially considering in the 2nd have we only had 2 subs.

We been lucky? If wining games is being lucky then yes we have.


You was on fire? Really? I thought we was dreadful and you was poor. Even wane said Wigan was poor.

I agree we've scraped a few wins with a bit of help from Lady Luck. Wigan played miles better than us today, their line speed was great, ours was non-existent. It's one thing that really irritates me about saints, the number of times you see our defensive line not moving up, just standing back and giving the attacking side an easy 10 metres and plenty of time and space to put moves on or kick unchallenged. Today we did it with receiving kicks as well, hardly contested their attacking kicks at all. Turners defence was particularly poor, it's never great but today it was abysmal.

Hopefully it's the wake up call we needed.

It's easy to make scapegoats of the usual suspects but I think it's unfair for some certain untouchable players to get off without criticism.

Roby has been very poor the last 3 weeks. His running from dummy half has lost it's impact and his distribution from the PTB had been the worst I've seen from him.

He always tackles and puts the effort in but it's clear he's playing below his ability.

We were down one as well, courtesy of O'Loughlin.

LMS and Turner are definately two.

LMS should be ashamed that a 18 year old prop forward out performed him. I think Brown will go with Richards over LMS for the rest of the season now imo.

Can't see Richards being fit for Monday. SOL took care of that for us.

You guys think there was much in that?

Trying to be unbiased but I didn't see a great deal in it. The lad slipped and instead of Lockers hitting him round the chest he got him a bit higher.

Seemed a genuine accident to me.

Turner had cut them out of his game almost completely last year, and only his previous reputation was stopping fans from other clubs seeing it imo - he really was top class - unfortunately after starting in a similar vein, he seems to have slipped back 18 months to the error prone liability he's been in the last month or so.

I was very skeptical when we signed him, and he completely won me over - he's now undoing all the good work. Hopefully he can turn it around sooner rather than later.

Couldn't tell at the game and fast forwarded it when watched it back.

Yeah, looked very calculated. He aimed for the head and got it. I've not watched it back, but a lot of those around me thought it was an elbow with his arm tucked across his chest. If that was the case it's a clear ban as it's an illegal tackling style. I saw it more as a swinging arm. Doesn't matter either way though as it's a 1-2 sort of offense and you've got byes over the next couple of weeks so it won't matter.

The whooping and hollering and back slapping whilst a young player is hurt by a clear high tackle was in poor taste as well. Professional players should be able to judge that it wasn't actually an impressive big hit and was rather a pretty sly high shot on a young player.

LMS - im going to be interested to see the stats, but imo Richards completely and utterly outplayed him, and was on the whole completely anonymous, also think he's been under performing for quite a while.

Turner - I was underwhelmed when we signed him, proved me completely wrong, and then has reverted to type. I wrote last week off as a bad day at the office, but now it's 2 in a row. He can be great, but his tackling technique was embarrassing today.

flanaghan - people have been calling for him to get a spot in the team, but what did he offer to the team? If LMS got outplayed by Richards, flanaghan can simply be happy Savelio didn't get selected, because from what we've seen so far, he'd of got completely outplayed

Dawson - perhaps harsh to put him in a "need to pull their socks up" but I simply fail to see what he brings in attack or defence. Was more solid than expected today, but was a big contributor to our lack of go forward (given browns wingers always scoot policy) - there were numerous times I felt we missed swift.

lomax - I don't get why everyone was so happy with his performance - he did some great stuff in attack, but his laboured defence was responsible for 2 tries - and 3 if you include the Farrell kick through

Hohaia - reverted to type after a few good weeks. Another who just seems to think "tackling technique"=grabbing, put in more than a few bad kicks, didnt ever seem to put people through, and was just generally everything I've come to expect of him. Walshs pass selection was poor at times today, but still made Hohaia look clueless

But, as everyone was very eager to point out to us before the match, nothing is won in April.

Did he take Richards slipping in to his calculations?

Lockers is good but that's ninja reactions to be able to not only react to a slip from Richards but to also mentally calculate how he'd take him out rather then just react.

Either way it doesn't really matter to us. I'd rest him for our next two games anyway.

he came back on or was you not paying close attention? lol seriously trying to blame O'Loughlin for the kid slipping over.

He will get a ban but as usual they will work in so he only misses minor games. Prob one match ban so he will get a rest in the cc.

Why do saints, Widnes and Warrington play local derby over Easter, yet Wigan get the bulls at home? Also seems very convienant Wigan had London the week before the busy Easter period.

So basically it's rest players the week before Easter. Pick full strength for Good Friday. Then rest players against the bulls and championship side the following week after Easter.

All the other sides are struggling with Easter but seems Wigan got it easy.