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| Deffo offer him a contract for next year
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| He has done well since he came back into the side. He's a grafter and really puts himself about defensively. He's one of those players who looks great when the side is playing well and on top, but who can quickly look farcical when we're not.
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| Id also keep him. Worth a contract and good cover for Roby. GOB needs to invest in a scull cap I think.
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| He's no good and not worth a contract. Makes too many mistakes and is too slow passing from dummy half, an odd good tackle isn't enough to cover for these deficiencies. You can see why he was third choice at Salford.
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| His defensive game has improved vastly since coming back in the team and he's played well in games against Wigan and Catalan.
He set up Wellens' try very well too.
I don't think he's worth a contract FT but he has done what was required in his loan deal.
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| I think he was man of the match against the pies, he was very impressive again but not sure I'd offer him a deal as he's been terrible in most other games.
Don't let the Highs of the last two week overshadow how poor he's been previous.
He was massive in defence today. Really put himself about and got in their faces as be did last week. Lovey pass for wello try at the end.
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| the lads come of age, shame with needed experience when he was with us but good on him
stood up well today
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"He's no good and not worth a contract. Makes too many mistakes and is too slow passing from dummy half, an odd good tackle isn't enough to cover for these deficiencies. You can see why he was third choice at Salford.'"
a couple of decent performances and people are getting carried away. The only way I'd keep him is if he was very very very cheap i.e 20k
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"icon_thumb.gif a couple of decent performances and people are getting carried away. The only way I'd keep him is if he was very very very cheap i.e 20k'"
That's my opinion as well. We can't get carried away by two top performances as he's had about 10 shockers previous to that.
Some games I've even questioned him being good enough to play super league but he's been very good the last two weeks.
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| Quote ="St pete"That's my opinion as well. We can't get carried away by two top performances as he's had about 10 shockers previous to that.'"
In fairness to Howarth though you could say the same about almost every player in the Saints team.
As a team we have played from very average to bloody awful for most of the season, with one or two having good games each week. Aside from the home game against Hull KR of course when pretty much everyone was as dire as they could possibly be.
Amazing what fans leaving early and booing the place down can do to a team's performance!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"In fairness to Howarth though you could say the same about almost every player in the Saints team.
As a team we have played from very average to bloody awful for most of the season, with one or two having good games each week. Aside from the home game against Hull KR of course when pretty much everyone was as dire as they could possibly be.
Amazing what fans leaving early and booing the place down can do to a team's performance!
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Agreed but we don't need to make a choice if to keep most of the team but we do with stu.
I've nothing at all against him and never fault his work ethic or attitude but I've seen him have some shockers this year, especially in defence.
Unless he's very very cheap, I wouldn't offer him a deal.
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| If we don't sign him up who will cover for the injury prone Roby?
I'd get rid of Wheeler before Howarth
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| Quote ="Rommel"If we don't sign him up who will cover for the injury prone Roby?
I'd get rid of Wheeler before Howarth'"
I don't deal with the players every day so I don't know who's the backup hooker in the reserves.
Wheeler and howarth are totally different positions so impossible to compare them.
Like I said, if howarth was extremely cheap, I'd keep him but I'm not getting not getting carried away with his form of the last two games as I've not forget some horrific form in the weeks before that that which lead to him not even making the 17.
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| Wello has just singled out Howarth on Twitter for praise in defence.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Wello has just singled out Howarth on Twitter for praise in defence.'"
He was immense in defence. Put some big hits on which resulted in them losing the ball.
He's popular lad with the saints lads. Him and big Alex good mates.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"In fairness to Howarth though you could say the same about almost every player in the Saints team.
As a team we have played from very average to bloody awful for most of the season, with one or two having good games each week. Aside from the home game against Hull KR of course when pretty much everyone was as dire as they could possibly be.
Amazing what fans leaving early and booing the place down can do to a team's performance!
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Agreed. All players have been poor apart from the last too weeks. With a proper 7 in walsh he may flourish. See what happens I guess
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| Some may not agree but I'd keep him especially if there's no other options available. If we manage to get rid of Hohaia that will free the necessary cash for a Stand Off but we'll need a back up hooker. Howarth may not be the most talented but he gives 100% and is a decent back up option who will probably be on a fairly low salary. Roby surely won't miss as many games next year so he'd be a bit part player.
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| Slowest passer of the ball I've ever seen at 9 for saints, never a saints standard hooker
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| I am sure we have plenty of cover if Roby does get injured - we don't need another hooker unless that happens. Wilkin, Wellens, Flanagan.
No need to have people in the team who are not required, they may not take up much cap space but they do take up some.
He may have played well in the last couple of games but he isn't of the standard we need if we are to get back to being a team competing for trophies
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| I think I would see if he improves his performance consistency. Playing Roby for 80 minutes the last 2 season swas OK short term but has made him less effective.
It looks as though we might be 1 or 2 more seasons away for a "proper" hooker and not an adaptable one.
Probably an improved Howarth would be a better option, maybe Brown can improve his game similar to what he did at Hudd with Moore.
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| Quote ="Rommel"If we don't sign him up who will cover for the injury prone Roby?
I'd get rid of Wheeler before Howarth'"
Injury prone?!
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| If we dont keep Howarth then Leeds are releasing Liam Hood, thats the cheapest deal around.
This is really up in the air.
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| I'd keep him, I've slated him but you can't fault his commitment. He gets stuck in, wants to play and do well. He's been much improved recently, like he's playing for a contract.
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| I'd rather give Speakman a go to be honest. One swallow doesn't make a summer.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"I'd rather give Speakman a go to be honest. One swallow doesn't make a summer.'"
100% agreed.
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