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| For the saints fans behind the goal, did it go over. Hanbury thought it did,mapparently the match commissioner said it did, your thoughts?
Fair play to saints for coming back but we didn't deserve to lose. Such a tiring awesome performance from us, gutted.
Well done however
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"For the saints fans behind the goal, did it go over. Hanbury thought it did,mapparently the match commissioner said it did, your thoughts?
Fair play to saints for coming back but we didn't deserve to lose. Such a tiring awesome performance from us, gutted.
Well done however'"
I thought it went over, I was sat directly on line with it but both touch judges waved it down as a miss.
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| Gutted. I mean we missed other conversions and that killed us but if that was rightly given it may have made all the difference.
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| Wellens thought it went over.
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| I was sat directly behind the kicker and thought it went over.
However both touch judges kept their flags down.
There were quite a few baffling decisions during the game.
Would like to see the Lance no try. Either he did drop it in the act of putting the ball down, or else the ref and in goal touch judge saw the ball bounce sharply off the plastic pitch following it being put down and assumed it had been dropped.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Wellens thought it went over.'"
I'm 99.9% sure it went over, I was sat right in line with it.
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| He did say that the officials where bad for both sides as one of our guys was taken out off the ball trying to stop the drop goal.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"He did say that the officials where bad for both sides as one of our guys was taken out off the ball trying to stop the drop goal.'"
Sia was took off the ball while charging down the drop goal. The drop goal looked touch and go from my seat.
I think we got a little luck today.
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| I can confrim both points, the kick looked to me like it went over and we were sat behind the sticks on line with the kicker BUT , Lances try was a good try he didnt drop it or bounce it so I have no idea why it was chalked off, Hicks was diabolical for both sides, but after every game you can say , if only , or if the ref had......... , its on the record books and nothing can change
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"I can confrim both points, the kick looked to me like it went over and we were sat behind the sticks on line with the kicker BUT , Lances try was a good try he didnt drop it or bounce it so I have no idea why it was chalked off, Hicks was diabolical for both sides, but after every game you can say , if only , or if the ref had......... , its on the record books and nothing can change'"
Agreed, Hicks was rubbish today for both teams.
The offside at the kick off was a joke, every team, every week are offside at the kick off.
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| He missed 4 kicks that was his problem. The Lance try looked good too. Swings and roundabouts.
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| TBF that offside was probably him trying to rectify his mistake with the goal kick. Very harsh either way.
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| Quote ="St pete"Agreed, Hicks was rubbish today for both teams.
The offside at the kick off was a joke, every team, every week are offside at the kick off.'"
He only gave that pen because he knew he got the previous decision wrong.
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"For the saints fans behind the goal, did it go over. '"
I was convinced it went over but when the officials kept their flags down I assumed my eyes had gone.
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| I agree, it went over.
Lance Hohaia scores a disallowed try.
It's rugby league, unbelievable decisions are made. That's what makes our sport stand out!
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| I'm pretty certain it went over, then again I'm pretty certain Lance scored his try under the sticks.
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| The kick went over and I also thought the Hohaia try was was a knock on. The try was similar to one he scored a couple of weeks back and I had my doubts about that one being awarded.
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| Quote ="HARDMAN"Quote ="St pete"Agreed, Hicks was rubbish today for both teams.
The offside at the kick off was a joke, every team, every week are offside at the kick off.'"
He only gave that pen because he knew he got the previous decision wrong.'"
Wait...are you actually suggesting that to make up for a bad decision he gave another bad decision?
Hicks was terrible today, and I'm glad that it is us who have come away with the 2 points...Widnes fans must feel a little sour about it!
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| If both Touch Judges wave a kick away the referee can't overrule the decision. If one put a flag up and one waves away then the referee makes the final call.
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| In fact, one touch judge was unsighted and went with his colleagues call.
Tough call. It happens.
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| Quote ="WorldWideSaint"In fact, one touch judge was unsighted and went with his colleagues call.
Tough call. It happens.'"
I've just seen it on tv and from the angle they showed it's impossible to know if it was a goal or not.
What I don't understand is your call of one of the touch judges being unsighted. That's their job to be in the right position. They have all the time in the world before the kick is taken to get their viewing angles correct.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"He did say that the officials where bad for both sides as one of our guys was taken out off the ball trying to stop the drop goal.'"
Mr Hicks is not a good referee. The TJs we had yesterday should go on a basic course in officiating at a game.
I did see the players getting taken out, although to be fair it wouldn't have made any difference.
All credit to Saints, though for playing to the end.
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| What part dont you understand exactly Rogues?
One of the officials was unsighted. The other official waved the kick away as no goal - the other (being unsighted) went with his colleague.
The referee cannot over-rule them both. If it was a one up one down situation, the referee has the casting vote, but as they "agreed", he cannot do anything but not award the points.
Mistakes happen, thats sport.
That better?
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| Quote ="Old Viking"Mr Hicks is not a good referee. The TJs we had yesterday should go on a basic course in officiating at a game.
I did see the players getting taken out, although to be fair it wouldn't have made any difference.
All credit to Saints, though for playing to the end.'"
True whilst the waving away of a legitimate conversion was a very poor decision, the only way we could claim it cost us the game would have been if roles were reversed and we scored the try in the last minute to take us within a point and that conversion attempt was for the victory.
As it turned out, despite our much improved form and performance we still lack a little composure in those tight situations. Its ironic that if we had failed to score the final try and handed the ball over to you well inside your 20, we may well have hung on to win, but then we also had the chance to secure the ball from the kick off, which we didn't and to keep you out, which again we didn't.
A fantastically entertaining game though! Makes up a bit for our capitulation at Langtree Park.
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| Talking of that conversion, what a kick. I never knew Gaskell could kick goals. Why has he suddenly taken over from T-Mak in the role? Last season it was Foster>Makinson>Lomax ahead of Gaskell.
Is that what he's been doing whilst not playing? Practising goal kicks? Or was Makinson carrying a knock?
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