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Never a half back.

Why did we sign him. Play full back or get shut

The worst overseas signing we've ever made? I'd pay his contract up now myself if I had the money. Whoever is doing our recruitment is really making a complete mess of things.

Worst overseas signing so far since Trindall definitely. At least we kicked him to the curb PDQ though. He might eventually make a great Saints player once he settles down in a consistent, winning team, but never at #6. And we let Leon go to get him and are stuck with him for another 3.5 years.... Gutted

Saintsfan will still insist he's a stand off



I said it before a ball was kicked, royce Simmons made a Huge huge mistake in signing a fullback to play stand off. I also stick by my comments that Royce simmons has set us back years!

Lance hohaia has no natural rugby brain, he passes go passing sake, he hardly takes the line on and is basically invisable.

His kicking game is the worst I've ever seen at any level of rugby and that includes kids level. He hardly finds the ground on any kick and mostly Dow. The wingers or fullbacks throat.

I don't agree he's our worst ever signings and I feel sorry for him as he's being asked to play a postion he just can't play.

He's certainly the worse stand off we've ever had.

Clueless, clueless, clueless, point at the defence, clueless, clueless, clueless.

Needs to be used elsewhere, he's largely ineffectual at Stand Off.

If I can see it, you can see it, most saints fans can see it, Brown can see it, millward can see it but why can't Royce Simmons and saintsfan see it?

Just t think, we got another three and half seasons of this!

More worrying that Rushy can't see it.

Gaskell isn't experinced enough to play alongside lomax but it's got to be better than hohaia being there.

And playing U20s is not going to get him any more experienced.

If we face the fact that we are not going to see silverware this year it would seem the very least we can do is get performances and experience out of what is going to be the backbone of saints for years to come.

I'm not anti Lance, the guy is a great athlete and gives us plenty options to sure up positions in the event of injuries but no way is the guy our best HB option.

Rushie reverted to experienced heads after an awful start under Simmons this season. Thats passed, and we need to develop & move on as team. Lance rarely occupies first or second receiver, his kicking game is awful and brings no vision or creativity whatsover, in fact his indecision costs us big time on occassions. He simply isnt a half back, pig sick of saying it.
Gaskell & Lomax know each others games & work well together. Gaskell deserves an extended run again, offers a bit of pace a kicking game and unlike Hohaia can actually run with the ball and commit a defender.

Gaskell should be playing has a much better kicking game and passing game.

The real problem then is the inexperience of Lomax we can#t afford to have two young players at half back - that's what Rushy can see!

He's had enough time to 'bed in' now but no more, he continues to make the most horrendous cock-ups with the ball in hand. Twice after breaks and with overlaps he has turned the ball back inside today, appalling decision making. His kicking game is dire and he is looking like an expensive mistake.

Wigan are a good enough defensive team without making it easy for them. We're fortunate to have scored any points against them so far this season and no wonder with this pair of 'halfbacks.' We definitely need a shake-up in those positions.

I've never seen a worse kicking game on my life. It's horrific! He can't find ground with any kick!

Either play him fullback or get shut!

And how do we do that when he's on a FOUR year deal!

Well he's homesick and his wife even more so. Stick him in u20s and hope he just gets fed up and goes home.

You know this for a fact?

OH PLEASE GOD!

I know this for a fact

Get somebody to get in his ear and keep telling him how wonderful home is!! PLEASE.

I'ts not that I don't rate him as a player but he's just not what we need.

Gaskel plus AN Other at HB, Lomax at FB.

Stadium costs have naturally meant squad strength took a temporary dip. Manu & Turner bring pace, power & size. We have a nucleus of a great young squad, short of a real organising half back, a house prop, and abit of extra pace out wide. Add Manu & TP to that pack & Turner in centres and we start looking alot more competative.
Makinson, Swift & Jones a year on will be pushing hard for first team spots and bring depth to the squad.
Alot depends on whether the likes of Hohaia & Perry can be offloaded to accomodate fresh blood.
That said I thought today we didnt work hard enough off the ball, not many people willing to push up & hit holes for the ball carrier today. Lacked leadership today of a Scully, Longy, KC or Graham. Lack the talisman to drag us through in those types of games when were not playing that well.

After seeing Wellens attempted tackle on Finch I would gladly give Lance a go at fullback.

I'm inclined to agree. I only saw the Leeds match before leaving for the USA. Then the Wakey game. I assumed Lance was offering something that steadied the ship in that time. However 2 games on the run that I've seen live since being back and sorrry but he offers nowt. I don't mean to say he is bad, but he ain't good. I'd gladly take back Gaskell into the team now. Yes he did not have a great start but even in his poorer game he tried stuff that did not come off. Lance tried diddle until the game was gone when he did a chip over but in that position everyone was trying random stuff.

I'm also now starting to get ready to put the boot in on Shenton.

Defensively it's a pretty sound team, we had a problem in the first half with Shentons wing but it was fixed at half time. What we cannot fix at half time is our attack. It's plain woeful. Last week we sent everything through Roby. Well against a well drilled middle defense plan A does not work. Roby had a few runs but no one was with him.

Wellens gets bagged for pace, but from a scrum he was clean through and pulling away from any support only Wiganers with him.

I know Shenton has been injured and our halves are woeful at getting the ball out, but we could have kept hold of Gilmore for less probably and had as much if not more joy from him.

I'm not going to say we are terrible and have no chance, but changes are needed in the short term and long term.
Short term we need idea's at half back rather than pass over lomax's head, he jumps in the air, runs sideways a few meters and then telegraphs an inside ball. Whilst Lance just looks on doing jack.

He's a white elephant for me.

He's turning out to be one of the worst signings we've made in recent memory. For the money he's undoubtedly on he offers nothing at all

Perry hardly looks worth a contract either

Someone on here thinks hes a good stand off and Royce Simmons should still be in charge







Guess who?