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| Wellens and laffranchi both been charged with grade b offense and could miss Friday game
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| Laffranchi could be in trouble for his spear tackle.
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| What's Wellen's charged with? Was involved with the spear tackle?
It wasn't a bad one, but if the League are clamping down on it.
TP will come in for Boof, prob makinson for Wello?
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| Whhhat? What did Wellens do?
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"What's Wellen's charged with? Was involved with the spear tackle?
It wasn't a bad one, but if the League are clamping down on it.
TP will come in for Boof, prob makinson for Wello?'"
I hope so. Gaskell at 6 and Lance at 1 would be huge mistake in my opinion. A very costly mistake too.
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| Wello try drop bries on is head at the play the ball in first half and laffranchi for that spear tackle if both ban can see gaskell 6 lance 1 tp in for laffranchi
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Whhhat? What did Wellens do?'"
Constant screaming at the ref
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| Quote ="1984saints"Wello try drop bries on is head at the play the ball in first half and laffranchi for that spear tackle if both ban can see gaskell 6 lance 1 tp in for laffranchi'"
Have you seen the difference in our play since Lomax and Hohaia have been together?
Why oh why would you want to disrupt that when we have Makinson who can easily slot in at 1 and has never let anyone down or put a foot wrong in a Saints shirt?
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| Quote ="1984saints"Wello try drop bries on is head at the play the ball in first half and laffranchi for that spear tackle if both ban can see gaskell 6 lance 1 tp in for laffranchi'"
There was a little [itombstone[/i moment, now I think about it.
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| Can someone point out when exactly Wello's supposed indiscretion is meant to have happened? I ve watched it back twice now and never noticed anything?
Laffranchi 's is nonsense as well as the ref and video referee both ignored it when it happened. We should appeal both its like they have gone through with a fine tooth comb just so they can fill a quota per team. There was nothing in that match worthy of a ban.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Can someone point out when exactly Wello's supposed indiscretion is meant to have happened? I ve watched it back twice now and never noticed anything?
Laffranchi 's is nonsense as well as the ref and video referee both ignored it when it happened. We should appeal both its like they have gone through with a fine tooth comb just so they can fill a quota per team. There was nothing in that match worthy of a ban.'"
From memory, Wello tackled briers, but he wasn't quite grounded so he had a second go, Wello was on his knees and briers head went between his legs.
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| Taken from [urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary[/url
Case Number ON/215/12
Name Paul Wellens
Club St Helens
Shirt Number 1
Match Warrington v St Helens
Competition Super League
Date 30/03/12
Incident considered Dangerous tackle in 7th minute
Decision Charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF Law: 15.1(d) Detail: Dangerous tackle Grade: B MRP - Referred to tribunal
Range of Recommended Sanctions in relation to Charged Grade* 1-2 matches
Case Number ON/217/12
Name Anthony Laffranchi
Club St Helens
Shirt Number 14
Match Warrington v St Helens
Competition Super League
Date 30/03/12
Incident considered Dangerous tackle in 59th minute.
Decision Unknown
Details of Charge / Reason for NF Law 15.1(d) Detail: Places in a dangerous position and reaches the ground in a dangerous position Grade: B MRP - Referred to tribunal
Range of Recommended Sanctions in relation to Charged Grade* 1-2 matches
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| I don't remember seeing anything dodgy involving Wellens, but I must admit I have been expecting to hear more about the Laffranchi one.
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| Just as things were looking up for us boom. Great.
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| wouldnt surprise me if ian (egg head) smith has added his twopenneth.
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| Get em banned the dirty gets!!
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| Plead not guilty and get Scott Moores Solicitor to speak for you at the hearing?
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| Ggaskell brings more than makinson for me and his two best games came against Wigan in the play off moving lance to one doesnt mean he as to change is game in attack Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Have you seen the difference in our play since Lomax and Hohaia have been together?
Why oh why would you want to disrupt that when we have Makinson who can easily slot in at 1 and has never let anyone down or put a foot wrong in a Saints shirt?'"
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| Quote ="1984saints"Ggaskell brings more than makinson for me and his two best games came against Wigan in the play off moving lance to one doesnt mean he as to change is game in attack '"
Mak's sheer pace coming into the line in the situations Wello been in over the last two weeks would be devastating. I don't know if his support play around the ruck would be as smart as wellos, mind.
I'd also feel a bit better about Makinson under the high ball, rather than gaskell or Hohaia.
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| IMO pairing Gaskell and Lomax would probably be an error at this stage, so I'd either go with Gaskell and Lance at half back and put Lomax to 1 or put Makinson to 1.
Makinson to 1 gives the least disruption, Gaskell to half back gives us a better kicking game.
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| What are their previous records like? I know Laffranchi was banned a few times in the NRL, so maybe it's worth getting him to plead guilty?
Has Wello ever been banned?
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| I would have no problems with either Gaskell or Makinson in the side. But this is a new team so we should not underestimate the chances of Ashe getting a run at FB as it is his choosen position.
Gaskell and Lomax had wigans number last year so it's not the end of our chances at all if they do play together, but I think the experience at half back has helped take the pressure off.
Lomax can play 1 and still offer the same attacking options that he has done in that position.
So we have 3 options that I think are mostly likely.
Lomax to FB, Gaskell to HB
Makinson to FB
Ashe to FB.
But also Wellens may not get a ban, he has a good discipline record, I've not seen the incident and so he may get away with a letter. I recall the last few years lots of players with poorer discipline records getting letters warning about their tackles rather than bans. So unless there has been an interpretation or there was something really nasty I would expect a letter and a fine.
La Franki, well we have TP coming back in but I would rather keep TP at 2nd row.
I could see La FRanki coping a plea if he did a spear. Clough, LMS, Perry, Megennis to be the four main props.
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| Franchise's hit didn't seem to bad at all, yes his legs were over the horizontal but he didn't drop him on his head or bury him? It was clearly onto his shoulder and Blythe got up and played it with no word from the referee.
Briers made the most of Wello's tackle too. It was a silly thing to do but IIRC Wello let go of him. I mean if he can pick Briers up off the floor whilst on his knees then i think he should be in the Strongman series.
TMak surely has to come in at 1 if Wello gets banned, leave the Lance/Lomax partnership alone and don't disrupt it with bringing Gaskell back. TP could come in for Franchise but its a shame as he was getting really into his stride.
Onwards and upwards eh!
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| i thought laffranchi would be up for his tackle late in the game surprised at wellens being charged thou nothing in that tackle plus wellens is on his knees ,even wikin gets a look at for bridges injury were he run into wilkin late ,got to laugh at the rfl nothing for carvell with the head high on laffanchi . i think laffranchi will get a ban ,if i was wellens i would be appearing and defending my corner .
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| I am astonished that Wellens has been cited considering some of the stuff that went on in that game.
See Morleys 'tackle' on Perry in the lead up to our try when Morley was slow getting back into the line. He basically goes in third man with his forearm to Perry's chin and jolts his head back, but somehow ends up worse off. I imagine if Perry had gone down feigning injury or had been knocked out, we would have heard a lot more about it.
I even paused the moment when I got home to check where he made contact as I saw it as clear as day at the game, and the video confirms it. I couldn't believe Laurel and Hardy didn't mention it in commentary.
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