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Or at least converts it into bonds and stocks, according to my limited understanding
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1340
looks to me like Mike Coleman who owns the billion dollar Ailing Analytics has put his hand in his pocket, but in a financial rocket science kind of way.
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Or at least converts it into bonds and stocks, according to my limited understanding
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/1340
looks to me like Mike Coleman who owns the billion dollar Ailing Analytics has put his hand in his pocket, but in a financial rocket science kind of way.
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| Can somebody explain this financial info into laymans terms to understand?
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| Yeah, what does it mean? Are we quids in now? Or just oweing money to different people?
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| It basically means the club has raised £6m privately (I'm assuming existing shareholders), and has no bank debt.
£3m of this is convertible loan stock (usually pays a low interest rate [sometimes even no interest at all with the holder having an option to convert the loan stock into shares to get an equity "upside"icon_wink.gif and £3m is a straight loan, albeit from a private individual.
The cash is to be used to pay the last instalment on the stadium lease and fit it out, plus a bit more for day to day working capital.
Basically, it's incredibly good news and means that we have not had to borrow money externally to fund the stadium, it has all come from "friendly" sources, most probably McManus and his cashed up chums.
McManus is a St Helens RLFC legend.
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| Sounds like this Coleman dude is the one to be sat near at the new ground. I'll bet he will shout the whole row a round when it's his turn.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Sounds like this Coleman dude is the one to be sat near at the new ground. I'll bet he will shout the whole row a round when it's his turn.'"
His seat will have armrests for sure.
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| So if we sell James Roby to Wigan for £3million we will be debt free?
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| Quote ="Rommel"So if we sell James Roby to Wigan for £3million we will be debt free?'"
Our financing package sounds kinda like lending a tenner from your dad; he has a feeling he might not ever get it all back.
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| So that's six million Saints owe "somebody" plus the inherent losses over the last few years or are they now included in that six million?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So that's six million Saints owe "somebody" plus the inherent losses over the last few years or are they now included in that six million?'"
Totally. I wish we didn't own the ground, rented off a football team and were managed by a gorilla.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Totally. I wish we didn't own the ground, rented off a football team and were managed by a gorilla.'"
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| The Wigan lot won't like this one bit! "cashed up Mega club St.Helens" has a certain ring to it!
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| Is anyone prepared to answer the question I asked? If the six million wipes out all existing debt (or should I say consolidates it) then it appears to be a very good deal, otherwise it's just borrowing more money (albeit on very good terms)
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Is anyone prepared to answer the question I asked? If the six million wipes out all existing debt (or should I say consolidates it) then it appears to be a very good deal, otherwise it's just borrowing more money (albeit on very good terms)'"
Does anyone [iknow[/i the answer to your question? Probably Mr McManus and the people involved - I couldn't see the answer in the same statement that you read
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So that's six million Saints owe "somebody" plus the inherent losses over the last few years or are they now included in that six million?'"
Why would losses from the last few years not be included in the current position? That makes no sense at all.
It's a £3m loan we owe "somebody" (i.e. McManus and his rich Saints supporting pals), plus another £3m that can be converted into shares.
We have a shiny new stadium all fitted out and no bank debt. The stadium has been financed by the Board and their private contacts.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Is anyone prepared to answer the question I asked? If the six million wipes out all existing debt (or should I say consolidates it) then it appears to be a very good deal, otherwise it's just borrowing more money (albeit on very good terms)'"
The statement explicitly states we have no bank debt, and that more directors loans have been converted to shares. What is your question?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"McManus is a St Helens RLFC legend.'"
Damn right. And his cashed up chums aren't so far behind either! They certainly deserve cupholders with their padded seats in the new stadium.
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| Does this mean I can't sing 'Sack the board' when Lance Hohaia knocks on and costs us another game next season?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Does this mean I can't sing 'Sack the board' when Lance Hohaia knocks on and costs us another game next season?'"
I think you might find yourself trundled out of the stadium if you so much as try!
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| Where would we be without our present set of directors?
Have a close look at Bradford and the downward spiral they've been In,
a few years ago there wasn't a ciggy paper between us. Macmanus and co have sorted out a brand new state of the art stadium(that's ours!!!!!) whilst keeping us extremely competitive on the pitch.
I for one am extremely grateful to Eamon and his board were really lucky to have em.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Why would losses from the last few years not be included in the current position? That makes no sense at all.
It's a £3m loan we owe "somebody" (i.e. McManus and his rich Saints supporting pals), plus another £3m that can be converted into shares.
We have a shiny new stadium all fitted out and no bank debt. The stadium has been financed by the Board and their private contacts.'"
Don't put him out of his misery, let him clutch at straws.
McManus is the reason why this club has been so successful (or is even still in operation) over the past few years. It should be him with the statue.
Hope he enjoys his armchair with the best view in the stadium.
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| Fantastic news (I think, not being big on accountancy myself... ) - Big Mac confirms his total Saints Legend status yet again.
Now, if only we could find and afford another prop to go with the new stadium...
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| Quote ="Northampton_Saint"Now, if only we could find and afford another prop to go with the new stadium...'" What do you mean, our latest international prop is due to win another cap this weekend, isn't he?
Well, it seems like the builders will be paid and any money owing will be to an interested party. So that's good.
Now its time to start making some money from our new stadium.
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| Quote ="Northampton_Saint"Fantastic news (I think, not being big on accountancy myself...
) - Big Mac confirms his total Saints Legend status yet again.
Now, if only we could find and afford another prop to go with the new stadium...'"
He really has been a superb chairman I can't praise the man enough.
What he has done for our great club is equal to any player over the years. I think it's safe to say we'd be languishing at the bottom of super league or even have gone bankrupt by now.
Sir you are a Hero!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"The Wigan lot won't like this one bit! "cashed up Mega club St.Helens" has a certain ring to it!'"
To be honest, makes no difference how much money you (or Wigan) have. Game's run by communist clowns who won't let you spend it anyway.
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