Wello - I love the guy and his achievements but he cannot play for FB for 2012. He holds us back in attack as he is not dynamic enough coming into the line and is less secure at the back.

Pryce - 50/50. Yes he's a game changer - when he wants to be. Where did he go for the last 5mins? Could he have mixed it up more than he did. I probably lean towards keep as he will help Lomaskell develop.

Celebrate and keep doing what we do well. Forwards are good and continue to set-up attacking platforms. Moore has been a revelation and the pack should be ok for next year, even without Graham.

We need a pacey utility back. God knows where from but we've never replaced Albert or Sullivan for wing speed and I think we need to look around for such speed. Richard Owen, Shad Royston, anyone like that who can cover 1-5 with some speed we are desperate for

Learn to attack down the right. Don't criticise Shenton. He aint had good ball. We look good going down the left when it is Pryce to Meli - we need to be able to go the other way as well.

I'm gutted but proud. I think we are 10% short of top 2 and GF winning material. We can get there as Simmons gets more SL experience, by making brave decisions and doing some last minute recruitment for 2012 in our backline.

I agree, wello shouldn't play fullback next year. His tackle on charnley today was worldclass tho.

Pryce is very important to us at the moment but i has serious doubts if he's good enough in the big games. He's gone missing in 3 grand finals and few semis. He didn't take the line on enough today and threw the same pass everytime.

I think we are in urgent need of a fullback, centre, winger, halfback and a prop for next year.

The backs are just not good enough in attack.

Lomax full back and Hohia at half back for me next year, bench for Wello imo.

That is an awfully big shopping list.

It sure is but not hair as much a Warrington will need when your oaps call time.

Surely the other way round? Hohia is a world cup winning full back afterall.

Problem with lance, he's crap under the high ball.

We need a top class coach.

The difference between us and Wigan is not in the players, its in the coaching.

They have a bloke who is AAA rated, ours is a bloke who failed in his two senior coaching jobs and has spent the last decade saying "yes boss"

Time will tell if Royce can improve us. Year 2 will be interesting.

I have a lot of time for Simmons and think he's done really well given the hand he's been dealt this season, but also agree that he probably lacks the x factor to turn a team from great runners up to champions. I cant honestly see us winning anything with him in charge

Why can't we turn ball carriers onto their back whilst Wigoon and Wire can? That's not the players fault. Why aren't they being coached to do it? That has nothing to do with guile, pace or attacking nous. Our defence isn't good enough.

I can see what your saying. Wigan have improved 109% under maguire and I've no doubt in my mind it's down to coaching but to he fair to Royce he's had awful luck with injuries.

We had a near enough full strength side out today and yet we were still comfortably second best.

It's the same move everytime, that's down to coaching.

Its not fair to bag Royce as he's had a tough time this year with injuries, Graham saga on moving, eastmond saga and also lost his dad so he's had a tough first year.

I don't expect him to be here longer than the two years he's signed for tho.

The injury situation has been an excuse, sometimes its been a pretty valid one, but on the whole its been nothing more than an excuse.

Today we were at pretty much full strength and were comprehensively outplayed.

Given our move into a new stadium can we really afford to mediocre again next year? Our squad is good enough to push for a top two spot and I'm sure that Maguire or Smith would love to have our pack at their disposal.

I'll be honest, Im pretty shocked at our recruitment for a team moving into a brand new stadium.

The lack of fitness and pace since DA left is a big problem but our lack of moves and tactics today must be down to the coach. Tony puletua must be shattered after today's game, same move every play up the middle.

BUT IN FAIRNESS WE HAVENT PLAYED A FULL(ISH) STRENGTH TEAM FOR A WHILE WHEREAS WIGAN / WIRE HAVE. IF WE CAN KEEP TO FULL STRENGTH THEN THE PLAYOFFS COULD BE VERY DIFFERENT

Praise the Lord - someone else has seen the light.

next year i'd put lomax at fullback and lance at 7. think if leon goes we should definately sign another halfback.

Maybe the fitness training is the problem? Most of the posts refer to "bad luck with injuries" - could be that the strength & conditioning regime needs looking at?

We've had injuries for the last two years now so it's possible the is something going wrong somewhere at the club but Royce says they have looked at all aspects of training and he can't find anything wrong.

Spot on.I can see another trophyless period of tenure as per Potter

Another major weakness -his use of substitutes-amply demonstrated yesterday

Simmons took Pryce off and replaced him with Gaskell with 6 mins to go. Bizarre.