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| Really enjoyed listening to his comments on SLSM tonight.
To be fair he was quite honest and his own opinions of his form where refreshingly honest. I always thought when watching him that he always seamed to play better under some coaches compared to others.
Interested in watching Connelly at the end of the programme. He could have really done with an interview programme like this 15 years ago, it may have stopped some fans impressions of the reasons why he left (was forced to leave) the club.
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| Looking forward to the Connolly one next week Sullivan wasnt a big fan Mike or Ellery
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| Quote ="Father Jack"Looking forward to the Connolly one next week Sullivan wasnt a big fan Mike or Ellery'"
Connolly will be funny next week. He's thick!
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| Quote ="St pete"Connolly will be funny next week. He's thick!'"
Well he is from St. Helens.
Seriously though, I'm looking forward to next weeks programme, it should be very interesting, and maybe it'll put an end to the Judas thing when the real story comes out.
I've enjoyed most of those programmes with the possible exception of "how great I am" Bobby (Bobbie) Goulding.
Carney is very good in that interviewing role. I'd like too see the "out takes" though.
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| I really enjoyed watching and listening to Sullivan. I'd forgotten just how gorgeous he is to look at! Damn fine winger, too.
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| Quote ="St pete"Connolly will be funny next week. He's thick!'"
Prerequisite for playing for Wigan.
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| Quote ="St pete"Connolly will be funny next week. He's thick!'"
Connolly was a great player. Selling him may have given us the money to buy new additions to the team, but even though the ends justified the means. It would have been better if the club could have let him go and be honest about whose choice it was.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Connolly was a great player. Selling him may have given us the money to buy new additions to the team, but even though the ends justified the means. It would have been better if the club could have let him go and be honest about whose choice it was.'"
Connolly is one of the best players I've ever seen.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Well he is from St. Helens.
Seriously though, I'm looking forward to next weeks programme, it should be very interesting, and maybe it'll put an end to the Judas thing when the real story comes out.
I've enjoyed most of those programmes with the possible exception of "how great I am" Bobby (Bobbie) Goulding.
Carney is very good in that interviewing role. I'd like too see the "out takes" though.'"
Garry Connolly is not a Judas and never was, he was forced out by Saints basically. Maurice of course was upto his cheating ways but they wouldnt have worked if Saints would have wanted to keep him.
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| Quote ="St pete"Connolly is one of the best players I've ever seen.'"
Not even close. Didn't he only score something like ONE try in over 10 years playing for GB?
Terrific defensively, but limited. I'd take the likes of Newlove/Gibbs/Lyon/Gidley over him at centre in just the last 10 years at Saints.
Looking forward to watching the programme though - always good to get things from the horses mouth and I bet it will be a pretty cathartic exercise for him from a St Helens POV.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Not even close. Didn't he only score something like ONE try in over 10 years playing for GB?
Terrific defensively, but limited. I'd take the likes of Newlove/Gibbs/Lyon/Gidley over him at centre in just the last 10 years at Saints.'"
I thought his attack was under rated, tbh. He was very quick over 100m, although he did have the luxury of playing for Wigan in 94 and 95 which may have given him extra freedom to show it. IMO, anyone who got to see Paul Newlove's tenure at saints is as privaliged as a speccy can be.
Would I have taken GC over Iro or Lyon? Mmmm.....
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Would I have taken GC over Iro or Lyon? Mmmm.....'"
Connolly wasn't in the same galaxy as Jamie Lyon.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Connolly wasn't in the same galaxy as Jamie Lyon.'"
What about Iro v Lyon?
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"What about Iro v Lyon?'"
Lyon by a mile. Iro was very very good, but Lyon was just special. The best player I have ever seen in a Saints shirt (I started watching just after Meninga finished).
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"What about Iro v Lyon?'"
Both better players than Connolly IMO. Connolly was very good and incredibly consistent, but Iro/Lyon were/are "X Factor" players, something Connolly never was as far as I'm concerned.
For raw talent, Lyon over Iro. Iro had a real physical presence that Lyon lacked though.
Can you imagine Lyon with Iro's physique? Jeepers.
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| Quote ="mistermoo"Lyon by a mile. Iro was very very good, but Lyon was just special. The best player I have ever seen in a Saints shirt (I started watching just after Meninga finished).'"
Lyon wasn't as good a centre as Newlove. I didn't see either Meninga either.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Lyon wasn't as good a centre as Newlove. I didn't see either Meninga either.'"
Newlove had everything - size, speed, step, hands.
Lyon is perhaps more talented in the sense that he can play in the halves, kick etc. But Newlove, as a centre, was ludicrously good. I agree that he was better than Lyon in that position.
People talk about Garnder being blessed outside Lyon. That was nothing compared to Sullivan outside Newlove.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Newlove had everything - size, speed, step, hands.
Lyon is perhaps more talented in the sense that he can play in the halves, kick etc. But Newlove, as a centre, was ludicrously good. '" Newlove was the more judicous of the two. It wasn't unusual for Lyon to force a pass and see it go to ground or touch - Newlove wouldn't. He was also a better defender.
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| For me it's very tuff Newy or Lion
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Garry Connolly is not a Judas and never was, he was forced out by Saints basically. .'"
Quite correct! it is funny how some people only have selective memories, real genuine guy as well Gary, I have one of his match jersey's at Wigan though, which he signed and gave to me.
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| Iro in his younger years was one of the most destructive centres I gave seen, only bettered by Inga, now there was a centre.
At 19 years of age Iro gave Meninga a torrid time, that's when Wigan stepped in to sign him, although it did help having Graham Lowe as coach at the time.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"
Can you imagine Lyon with Iro's physique? Jeepers.'"
First thing that sprang to mind then was Greg Inglis.
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| The Mal Reilly interview was the best so far, and he literally put his hand up to get back into RL. He would do wonders with that England Squad, well he cant do worse than Steve Mc..
Thought his opinion that SL isnt intense enough, and also that it hasnt got many good defence's was spot on...
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| Quote ="the wicker man"The Mal Reilly interview was the best so far, and he literally put his hand up to get back into RL. He would do wonders with that England Squad, well he cant do worse than Steve Mc..
Thought his opinion that SL isnt intense enough, and also that it hasnt got many good defence's was spot on...'"
His methods may well too outdated to be a head coach again, but I'm sure as a man he could bring something to a coaching team.
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| Anyway back to Sulli, how good was that try V the goons at Wigan Athletics stadium?? Sulli has got to be up there with Quirk & Albert as a great no5's...
Connelly will always be Judas & should be boo'd as much as ever... its funny!
Our board at that time were more interested in themselves than the club.
But in the centre conversation
1st Lyon.... 2nd Newlove.... 3rd Iro.....
Lyon could win a game on his own & kick the goal!
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