[url=http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/781Not as bad as I thought it might be![/url

Apart from Wheeler, the line up is the same as against Wigan so far as I can see. But if Wello is playing on an ankle injury then we may lose him again. But then again, we may lose someone completely different!

I suspect there are going to be a lot of injections going around come Monday morning!

Could be Wellens has been included without any real prospect of being played. If we only have 17 fit players then add 2 others that are out maybe the easy option, rather than having to make a quick decision over an 18 year olds fitness to be picked.

I reckon

28. Tommy Makinson,
2. Ade Gardner, 3. Michael Shenton,
5. Francis Meli, 22. Jamie Foster,
20. Jonny Lomax, 14. Scott Moore,

15. LMS 9. James Roby, 10. James Graham,
4. Sia Soliola 12. Jon Wilkin,
11. Tony Puletua,

18. Matty Ashurst, 19. Andrew Dixon, 21. Shaun Magennis, 24. Tom Armstrong,

Yeah better than expected. Are we allowed to change this if those rumoured to be missing like Wello, Lomax and Soliola do miss out?

I'd love to see Mackinson have a go from fullback.

Makinson did quite well in wellos absense, defititely should be there if the great one is injured

Wellens to miss out, eastmond to be late call up

Eastmond has a chest infection.

However, I've just noticed that Josh Jones has acquired the no.30 shirt in the first team. He's been training with the first team on a part-time basis. He can play wing and stand off, among other positions. Maybe he's going to get his debut?

I don't think Jones will play, he played for Saints U20's at Orrell today.

Why not? If first team players can play two matches in three days, so can someone in the u20s. He's got the shirt and he didn't have one yesterday, so I assume he's at least in reserve.

How did Josh Jones play today Rogues? Tremendous talent!

Oh by thevway Josh as NEVER played stand off!!

If he was going to play, then he wouldn't have been risked in the U20's. Wigan didn't play King, Tuson or Goulding today.

I'd like to see foster at fullback.

Was that NEVER for me?
I was quite disappointed to be honest as I was expecting much more from him, but to be fair both sides were under strength and probably disjointed.

As I said Nathan Ash must really frustrate the saints coaching staff. Unless I'm unlucky for him because every time I have seen him he has made superb breaks but then done the wrong thing.

That's not what it says on Saints website.

Really?
"Centre/second rower Josh has signed from Blackbrook but previously played for Leyland Warriors and Chorley Panthers. He has been a scholar for four years, attended all Regional Camps and captained at England under 15s. He is currently in the RFL’s national training program in preparation for this year’s England selection."
nowt about playing 6 there

Copied and pasted direct from the Saints website:


That has been taken from the first team information, where he has just had a profile placed under the number 30.

ahhh, mine was copied from the u20's info

Wellens was on crutches today so it doesn't look like he'll be playing on Monday!

Great! Not. Another long termer.

Our team cannot handle the pace of our own team. Groins, ankles, hamstrings ... we should stop trying to run so fast!

Being serious, what is the problem?

For two years we've had massive injury problems and just can't keep our players fit.

Is it they just not tough enough? Is it our training methods? Is it just pure bad luck?

I have a theory.

I know from what Flannery said in the press that Potter demanded (his word) that his players put on weight. Putting on weight will put pressure on certain parts of the body. Potter also liked us to barge forward. That may be why we had a predominance of muscle injuries over the last two seasons. Simmons stated in the press when he first came over here that he left the conditioning side to the conditioner. The conditioner asked him what plan he wanted but he handed the job back to the conditioner. Simmons has speeded us up good style. Our injuries are now largely athletic ones: ankles, hamstrings, groins. The only upper body injuries have been direct results of tackles (Clough and Wheeler; Clough has a complication to his of course).

So my theory is that the type of injuries suffered are as a direct result of the style of play adopted by the coach AND the conditioning regime.

Good theory, eh?

Awesome theory

According to a poster on Redvee, the 19 man squad will be much different from the team playing tomorrow and the injury situation is worse than anticipated.

Buggeration. So why release a smoke and daggers 19 man squad?

Are we doing a Millward?

I've been told that Sia, wheeler, wello, lomax are all doubts from the squad but not sure how true.

wello and wheeler will definately not be playing tomorrow