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| Name any other side in Superleague that would go to any of the top 3-4 sides, both Wigan and Warrington in our case without 8-9 first team players and win both games.
Admirable effort from the boys, Potter has his critics but these kids are coming on fast!!
To win today without, Gidley, Lomax, Soliola, Wheeler, Dean, Faasavalu, Eastmond, Fozzard etc is an amazing effort and coupled with the win at the pie dome must give us some confidence when the big guns are back fit!
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| Although we lost at Leeds, that was another superb performance with many youngsters
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| Quote ="theres only one stan wall"Name any other side in Superleague that would go to any of the top 3-4 sides, both Wigan and Warrington in our case without 8-9 first team players and win both games.
Admirable effort from the boys, Potter has his critics but these kids are coming on fast!!
To win today without, Gidley, Lomax, Soliola, Wheeler, Dean, Faasavalu, Eastmond, Fozzard etc is an amazing effort and coupled with the win at the pie dome must give us some confidence when the big guns are back fit!'"
Hold on, at the start of the season you would only of had Gidley, Soliola, Maureen, Eastmond and Fozzard so its more like 5 from your 17. Still a good effort mind you but the other players you mentioned wouldn't have been missed at the start of the year. I fear Saints more than Wire or Leeds if we face you in the playoffs or the final itself.
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| But your team today didn't even look depleted.
The only one's I noticed missing without being reminded just now was Gidley and Eastmond.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"But your team today didn't even look depleted.
The only one's I noticed missing without being reminded just now was Gidley and Eastmond.'"
And Soliola. He's hardly played for us but when he's playing he'll made a big impact.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Hold on, at the start of the season you would only of had Gidley, Soliola, Maureen, Eastmond and Fozzard so its more like 5 from your 17. Still a good effort mind you but the other players you mentioned wouldn't have been missed at the start of the year. I fear Saints more than Wire or Leeds if we face you in the playoffs or the final itself.'"
Wheeler was first choice centre this year.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Hold on, at the start of the season you would only of had Gidley, Soliola, Maureen, Eastmond and Fozzard so its more like 5 from your 17. Still a good effort mind you but the other players you mentioned wouldn't have been missed at the start of the year. I fear Saints more than Wire or Leeds if we face you in the playoffs or the final itself.'"
Wheeler is starting 17 when fit.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"Wheeler is starting 17 when fit.'"
When he is actually fit is another matter.
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| Quote ="theres only one stan wall"Name any other side in Superleague that would go to any of the top 3-4 sides, both Wigan and Warrington in our case without 8-9 first team players and win both games.
Admirable effort from the boys, Potter has his critics but these kids are coming on fast!!
To win today without, Gidley, Lomax, Soliola, Wheeler, Dean, Faasavalu, Eastmond, Fozzard etc is an amazing effort and coupled with the win at the pie dome must give us some confidence when the big guns are back fit!'"
Fozzard played in the U20's, Dean, Wheeler and Lomax wouldn't be in your first choice 17.
But if you want to play silly games, here goes.
Phelps, Roberts, Pryce, O'Carroll, McIlorum, Prescott and Bailey were all missing from the Wigan team last night.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"But your team today didn't even look depleted.
The only one's I noticed missing without being reminded just now was Gidley and Eastmond.'"
From our starting 17, i'd say maurie, eastmond, gidley, fozzard and sia was out.
Today dean would have played centre with gidley being out and also dixon would have played in the backrow.
Another way of looking at it, we had foster, ashurst, magennis, emmitt all playing alot of mins in a high intense game.
We had a 2nd row and a winger playing in the centre, a hooker at scrum half.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Fozzard played in the U20's, Dean, Wheeler and Lomax wouldn't be in your first choice 17.'"
Wrong. Wheeler was our first choice centre this season. Are you blind? Because that was said by a couple of posters.
We aren't talking about Wigan tonight. So go away.
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| I thought Gidley and Soliola were first choice centres.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Wrong. Wheeler was our first choice centre this season. Are you blind? Because that was said by a couple of posters.
We aren't talking about Wigan tonight. So go away.'"
Soliaola and Gidley were your first choice centres, look at your squad numbers.
How your t.v. seat?
The op asked, Who Else, did he not (I thought you taught English), I actually replied to HIS post.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Fozzard played in the U20's, Dean, Wheeler and Lomax wouldn't be in your first choice 17.
But if you want to play silly games, here goes.
Phelps, Roberts, Pryce, O'Carroll, McIlorum, Prescott and Bailey were all missing from the Wigan team last night.'"
Wello
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gidley
wheeler
meli
pryce
eastmond
graham
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tony p
flannery
sia
wilkin
Roby
maurie
bryn
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That IMO would have been our starting 17.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Soliaola and Gidley were your first choice centres, look at your squad numbers.
How your t.v. seat?
The op asked, Who Else, did he not (I thought you taught English), I actually replied to HIS post.'"
Sqweaky bottom time brian?
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"I thought Gidley and Soliola were first choice centres.'"
Soliola was brought over as centre/second row, much as Gilmour was last year as those are the positions he has played in. HOwever, we lost Solioloa by halftime of the first match of the season and Wheeler became default first choice. When he has been injured it has been Flannery covering. We were getting down to desperation stakes at one point when Gidley was injured as well as Wheeler, so Armstrong had to come in on the wing and Foster played at centre, and had a mare, although we haven't seen Armstrong since then either I don't think. However, this time we've put Meli at centre with Flannery at the other centre, but of course Meli plays on the wing and Flannery is a second rower.
We've really lost track of who is first choice and who is second choice to be honest as during Potter's time here we have had so many injuries that with the exception of the prop forwards it hasn't really been a case of one man dominating one position for the best part of two seasons. These days I'm beginning to think of Foster and Lomax as our first choice wingers as both Meli and Gardner have been missing for two or three spells each.
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| Quote ="St pete"Sqweaky bottom time brian?'"
Please explain.
I was replying to the o.p. who asked who else?
And explained.
At least I thought I did.
To reasonable people of course.
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| It's not just a case of who was missing, but how well certain players have done playing out of postion.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Please explain.
I was replying to the o.p. who asked who else?
And explained.
At least I thought I did.
To reasonable people of course.'"
Just last week we put cricket score on the wildcats, you said we can only beat whats infront of us and the wildcats are poor.
This week we go to a team that turned you over at your place with a team missing some good players, not one centre on the pitch, a hooker playing at 7 and few young kids, yet you still feel the need to put saints down.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Soliola was brought over as centre/second row, much as Gilmour was last year as those are the positions he has played in. HOwever, we lost Solioloa by halftime of the first match of the season and Wheeler became default first choice. When he has been injured it has been Flannery covering. We were getting down to desperation stakes at one point when Gidley was injured as well as Wheeler, so Armstrong had to come in on the wing and Foster played at centre, and had a mare, although we haven't seen Armstrong since then either I don't think. However, this time we've put Meli at centre with Flannery at the other centre, but of course Meli plays on the wing and Flannery is a second rower.
We've really lost track of who is first choice and who is second choice to be honest as during Potter's time here we have had so many injuries that with the exception of the prop forwards it hasn't really been a case of one man dominating one position for the best part of two seasons. These days I'm beginning to think of Foster and Lomax as our first choice wingers as both Meli and Gardner have been missing for two or three spells each.'"
Well I hope if we meet you in the play offs or GF that Lomax and Foster are your "first choice wingers"
Just out of curiosity how many games on the wing have Lomax and Foster played v Meli and Gardner?
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| Quote ="St pete"It's not just a case of who was missing, but how well certain players have done playing out of postion.'"
Spot on. However, Rogues just wants to get in how Wigan have had six million players missing this year but have had no credit for it and so why are Saints talking about missing players. Coz the poor ole crusties have had a much, much harder time and hey, look, they're top.
Except, of course, they haven't had 11 players out at the same time at any time, meaning that they are down to playing an 18 year old scrum half on his debut with wingers playing as centres and second rowers playing as props and centres and wingers.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Well I hope if we meet you in the play offs or GF that Lomax and Foster are your "first choice wingers"'"
Foster was a winger when we beat you at DW. He saved the bloody match for us, idiot. So that would be fine by me.
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| I do have to applaud how well a saints team plays together no matter what position or combination of 17. You have a knack of just making things stick and work out. Like tonight, whenever a saints player threw the ball to ground, another saints player picked up for them, yet whenever we threw the ball to the floor, a saints player dropped on it first.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Well I hope if we meet you in the play offs or GF that Lomax and Foster are your "first choice wingers"
Just out of curiosity how many games on the wing have Lomax and Foster played v Meli and Gardner?'"
Lomax has missed most of the season.
Ade has missed alot of the season.
Foster not played all that much really.
We've had a few wingers this year, meli, ade, foster, lomax, armstrong and dean all played wing this year.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"I do have to applaud how well a saints team plays together no matter what position or combination of 17. You have a knack of just making things stick and work out. Like tonight, whenever a saints player threw the ball to ground, another saints player picked up for them, yet whenever we threw the ball to the floor, a saints player dropped on it first.'"
Oh, we're not like that every week! Some days we've just dropped the ball and everyone has stood around to watch. We've usually lost those matches but sometimes we have managed to win, when the opposition has done it even more often than we have. Tonight we raised our game. But we might suffer for it next week, alas, as I don't think we have managed to win two games on the trot when we have had a really tough one to follow on from.
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