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=#8000FFAfter setting the precedent in midweek in regards to offensive & abusive chanting and controlling the crowd in regards to that matter, I am here to ask all Saints fans to email the rfl (enquiries@rfl.uk.com) and let them know your feelings on how all punishments should be equal as the Leeds club clearly failed to try and stop the chanting (aimed at James Graham & Richard Silverwood) so using this as the new bar the RFL have set for themselves, Leeds should be receiving a fine.
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=#8000FFAfter setting the precedent in midweek in regards to offensive & abusive chanting and controlling the crowd in regards to that matter, I am here to ask all Saints fans to email the rfl (enquiries@rfl.uk.com) and let them know your feelings on how all punishments should be equal as the Leeds club clearly failed to try and stop the chanting (aimed at James Graham & Richard Silverwood) so using this as the new bar the RFL have set for themselves, Leeds should be receiving a fine.
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| I wonder if James Graham or his management will come out in the press and mention in every sentence how he has ginger hair?
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| I don't think calling someone fat & ginger quite equates to homophobic abuse I'm sorry.
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Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFAfter setting the precedent in midweek in regards to offensive & abusive chanting and controlling the crowd in regards to that matter, I am here to ask all Saints fans to email the rfl (enquiries@rfl.uk.com) and let them know your feelings on how all punishments should be equal as the Leeds club clearly failed to try and stop the chanting (aimed at James Graham & Richard Silverwood) so using this as the new bar the RFL have set for themselves, Leeds should be receiving a fine.'"
Give over.
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Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFAfter setting the precedent in midweek in regards to offensive & abusive chanting and controlling the crowd in regards to that matter, I am here to ask all Saints fans to email the rfl (enquiries@rfl.uk.com) and let them know your feelings on how all punishments should be equal as the Leeds club clearly failed to try and stop the chanting (aimed at James Graham & Richard Silverwood) so using this as the new bar the RFL have set for themselves, Leeds should be receiving a fine.'"
Give over.
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| Far worse was the abuse given to Eastmond and Pryce as they left the field through injury. Apparently applauding an injured player off when he manages to regain his feet to leave the field doesn't count at Leeds.
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| Quote ="Mr. Messy"I don't think calling someone fat & ginger quite equates to homophobic abuse I'm sorry.'"
=#8040FFCas were fined for "failing" to stop the chanting, something Leeds also did it isn't about the chanting it's about the failure to stop it.
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| Quote ="Mr. Messy"I don't think calling someone fat & ginger quite equates to homophobic abuse I'm sorry.'"
It does in Cas (And other pit villages). The will clutch at any thing rather than admit they have a problem with people of a different sexual orientation, religion, etc, they still live in the 1970s dont you know!
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"It does in Cas (And other pit villages). The will clutch at any thing rather than admit they have a problem with people of a different sexual orientation, religion, etc, they still live in the 1970s dont you know!'"
=#8040FFThat wasn't the problem, so say the RFL, the problem was the clubs apparent failed attempts to stop the "abuse" (15 seconds in length combined for 3 chants 2 of which the club drowned out with the PA, and played the RFL respect CD) - Leeds did none of this, so using the same discrepancy the RFL did for Cas, Leeds should be fined for not stopping the chanting.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"It does in Cas (And other pit villages). The will clutch at any thing rather than admit they have a problem with people of a different sexual orientation, religion, etc, they still live in the 1970s dont you know!'"
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| Give over, Saints would have to have a collection every other week for ref abuse and I'm sure Jammer takes it all in his stride. Not one of them would say it to his face, including the props on the pitch.
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| Quote ="hooperman"Give over, Saints would have to have a collection every other week for ref abuse and I'm sure Jammer takes it all in his stride. Not one of them would say it to his face, including the props on the pitch.'"
=#8000FFThe problem doesn't come from the CHANTING it comes from the RFL fining Cas for FAILING TO STOP THE CHANTS, Leeds failed to stop the chants, so under this ruling, Leeds should receive a fine.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFThe problem doesn't come from the CHANTING it comes from the RFL fining Cas for FAILING TO STOP THE CHANTS, Leeds failed to stop the chants, so under this ruling, Leeds should receive a fine.'"
Shock headline
GAGS ISSUED TO FANS AT TURNSTILES, MYSTERIOUS SILENCE SETTLES OVER KNOWSLEY ROAD
How would I drink my beer.
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| Quote ="hooperman"Shock headline
GAGS ISSUED TO FANS AT TURNSTILES, MYSTERIOUS SILENCE SETTLES OVER KNOWSLEY ROAD
How would I drink my beer.
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=#8040FFThe RFL set the precedent, it's wrong but they've done it so from now on, in the interest of being fair and unbiased they now have to fine every club for any offensive chanting clubs don't try to stop.
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| Are you for real Gaslight???? Agreed, cheering when an injured player leaves the paddock is out of order but as for the niggling of Graham by the SS that's just part and parcel of the game. The words mountain and molehill spring to mind.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8040FFThe RFL set the precedent, it's wrong but they've done it so from now on, in the interest of being fair and unbiased they now have to fine every club for any offensive chanting clubs don't try to stop.'"
Wrong again six fingers its your 'Homophobic' chanting that this revolves around.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Are you for real Gaslight???? Agreed, cheering when an injured player leaves the paddock is out of order but as for the niggling of Graham by the SS that's just part and parcel of the game. The words mountain and molehill spring to mind.'"
=#8000FFYes, like fining a club £40,000 for 15-20 people chanting for 15 seconds across 3 separate chants, 2 of which the club drowned out playing the RFL respect CD? (this is over 2k per second, and failure to stop the chanting, playing the respect CD twice counts as trying to stop it imo).
The RFL have set the precedent, now they must stick to it or be made to look like an even bigger joke when they are in court against Cas for the appeal.
Quote ="Hacked Off"Wrong again six fingers its your 'Homophobic' chanting that this revolves around.'"
=#8040FFWrong the fine was for failing to stop the chanting, and calling someone "6 fingers" is also offensive.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8040FFThe RFL set the precedent, it's wrong but they've done it so from now on, in the interest of being fair and unbiased they now have to fine every club for any offensive chanting clubs don't try to stop.'"
errrm................ Its a coherent argument based upon a broad understanding of offensive. Is the ref a winker? I would guess so as he's male (natural action), is jammer ginger (yes) is he fat, he's certainly a big chap. The difficulty with your argument is that homophobia is legislated against and generally abhorent to all, as were being Ginger is a naturally occurring phenomenon and not offensive per se, in fact it can be very attractive to some.
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| Quote ="hooperman"in fact it can be very attractive to some.'"
=#8000FFAnd to others it is a target for hate crimes, such as bullying and people getting forced out of their homes because of abuse etc. The chant, although light hearted (like we can see you holding hands
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| ITS SATURDAY NIGHT GO OUT AND GET DRUNK U FOOL(GASLIGHT)OR ARE U ALREADY DRUNK TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO ARGUE WITH U ABOUT A FOOLISH TOPIC
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| Quote ="EVERTON1"ITS SATURDAY NIGHT GO OUT AND GET DRUNK U FOOL(GASLIGHT)OR ARE U ALREADY DRUNK TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO ARGUE WITH U ABOUT A FOOLISH TOPIC'"
=#8000FFSounds like you're the drunk one
and not trying to argue, these are simple facts based on what has happened.
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| 1) There were announcements to try and stop foul and abusive language.
2) The to55ers that cheered when Eastmond and Pryce got injured need a lesson teaching to them.
3) Grow a pair and get on with it.
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| well he should never of stuck two fingers up at us at the galpharm challenging cup semi he deserves it he dint get done for that and i would normally clap an injured player off but with pryce i dnt care he should b in jail
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFAnd to others it is a target for hate crimes, such as bullying and people getting forced out of their homes because of abuse etc. The chant, although light hearted (like we can see you holding hands
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People get forced out of their houses for being ginger? In that case I unreservedly apologise!
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| Gaslight get a life FFS!! What a toool.
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