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| Best player for Saints by a country mile. Feel so sorry for the guy for yet another brain fart at old trafford. Stick him in the second row where he would belong in the NRL, after a number of mistakes on the wing.
I feel sorry for Meli tonight. Great effort, unlucky mate.
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| To be fair, I think that Saints' achievements should be considered even greater for doing so well and coming within 8 points of a Championship win with two of the worst wingers in the whole competition
Ade Gardner got a better break than Matt. Thats all it boils down to!!
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"icon_frustrated.gif
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Meli made a couple of crucial and daft mistakes. We let in a soft try from dummy half.
But you could also argue that a lack of cutting edge kept it such a close game were a couple of errors was always going to be the difference.
We made a mass of yards, but were generally toothless the nearer we got to their line. How many drops outs did we force, how often did we look like scoring? Not enough considering the territory we won.
Massive effort from the Saints, could have gone either way.
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| both our wingers' mistakes cost us the game
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| Quote ="Adrian Monk"Best player for Saints by a country mile. Feel so sorry for the guy for yet another brain fart at old trafford. Stick him in the second row where he would belong in the NRL, after a number of mistakes on the wing.
I feel sorry for Meli tonight. Great effort, unlucky mate.'"
I'm fed up hearing this. The guy - however great going forward he is - is an utter incompetant clown when it comes to dealing with pressure situations defending. He can bugger off now for all I care.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"I'm fed up hearing this. The guy - however great going forward he is - is an utter incompetant clown when it comes to dealing with pressure situations defending. He can bugger off now for all I care.'" a winger has only 2 jobs, score tries and defend kicks, you fail mr meli
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"I'm fed up hearing this. The guy - however great going forward he is - is an utter incompetant clown when it comes to dealing with pressure situations defending. He can bugger off now for all I care.'"
But really he had a typical game tonight. We can wax lyrical about how he should of just taken that ball for a drop out instead of trying to palm it but he was better than Wellens in returning the game over the whole eighty tonight
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| Quote ="Steven Soderbergh"But really he had a typical game tonight. We can wax lyrical about how he should of just taken that ball for a drop out instead of trying to palm it but he was better than Wellens in returning the game over the whole eighty tonight'" thats gash, wello made 60 metres in just 2 returns!
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"I'm fed up hearing this. The guy - however great going forward he is - is an utter incompetant clown when it comes to dealing with pressure situations defending. He can bugger off now for all I care.'"
You make a thread for Meli, yet no thread for Ade (the test fu*king thing since slice bread) Gardner ? Gardner is the winger we need rid of. Meli makes brain farts, as fans we know this. As fans we know he is also a very good player when the ball is in his hands. So use him to his strength, stick him in the second row. Gardner on the other hand is complete nob jockey! I hate him with a passion, he is crap! he is sh*t! words cannot describe how crap Gardner is! He is worse than Rikki Sherrife! The guy would not gain a starting berth at Bold Miners or Blackbrook! SH*TE!!!!
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| Quote ="Adrian Monk"You make a thread for Meli, yet no thread for Ade (the test fu*king thing since slice bread) Gardner ? Gardner is the winger we need rid of. Meli makes brain farts, as fans we know this. As fans we know he is also a very good player when the ball is in his hands. So use him to his strength, stick him in the second row. Gardner on the other hand is complete nob jockey! I hate him with a passion, he is crap! he is sh*t! words cannot describe how crap Gardner is! He is worse than Rikki Sherrife! The guy would not gain a starting berth at Bold Miners or Blackbrook! SH*TE!!!!'"
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Francis Meli's Mum.
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| Flannery was Saints m.o.m. by a long way.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Francis Meli's Mum.'"
Not at all. Francis Meli returning the ball tonight was fantastic! He made huge strides into Leeds defence. When he made the mistake i thourght his head would drop. Instead he carried on his form from the last 10 weeks (being our best attacking player imo). He is a powerhouse who we do not use to his strengths. Vainikolo was awfull at dealing with kicks.
At the end of the day, WE lost this game. Silly errors cost us the game (not only Brain farts by Meli but the holding down we did on Leeds when they was in there own 20 and struggling!).
Im amazed how many people stick up for Ade Gardner! He is a complete Joke! P*ss off Gardner.
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| I think Gardner plays well when the team are playing well. When we're struggling he's exposed, both for Saints in recent years and horrendously in Great Britain/England shirt.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"thats gash, wello made 60 metres in just 2 returns!'"
and melli made the equivalent in psyudo psycho meters cause he could not run in field for any other reason
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| Quote ="Crackador"I think Gardner plays well when the team are playing well. When we're struggling he's exposed, both for Saints in recent years and horrendously in Great Britain/England shirt.'"
Im not going to make a comment about him again. People know my views on him.
Gardner
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| Any decent winger wouild have walked in for that chance in the first half.Oh for Albert or Sully instead of bloody Gardener.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"both our wingers' mistakes cost us the game'"
Absolute nail on the head. Without the individual errors from the wingers, we would have won, no matter how anyone tries to pad it out.
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| Quote ="Smurf"Absolute nail on the head. Without the individual errors from the wingers, we would have won, no matter how anyone tries to pad it out.'"
Well, we certainly would have had a good chance of winning. Our wingers made the biggest possible blunders on the very night they should have been performing at their best. It was like deja vu all over again. How can Meli have played so well for the last couple of months only to gift a try to Leeds in the bloody Grand Final? And what the feck has happened to Gardner this year? He really should be dropped.
As should Leon Pryce.
And Bryn Hargreaves.
And probably half the team, while I'm at it!!
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| Gardner and Meli are the Laurel and Hardy of rugby league.
When a winger gets the ball, the opposition fans should feel a flutter of fear at the prospect. When the ball goes near Gardner or Meli, the Saints fans brick themselves.
Rewind that game and what you see is that our weak players lost that game - Meli and Gardner for their cock-ups and Hargreaves for his lack of awareness at the PTB. You can make a case that Pryce/Wilkin/Roby etc didn't show up, but you can also make a case that they and their Leeds opposite numbers cancelled each other out. Meli, Gardner and Hargreaves looked second rate, and cost us the game.
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| Bad mistake from Meli tonight but the rest of his play was again superb.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Flannery was Saints m.o.m. by a long way.'"
You taking pi$$?
He was rubbish.
I thought wello and long was saints best players.
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| The truth is we have been arrogant enough to believe it doesn't matter if our wingers can't catch a ball, it doesn't matter if we have no kicking game - we are good enough to win without them.
I'm flabbergasted that a professional team can have such wanton disregard for crucial aspects of the game. Worst of all - it's been going on for YEARS. What next - play with 12 men (although if it meant axing Meli we might be better off)?
Chairman - take control.
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| I feel sorry for Meli. Apart from those two brain explosions his performances this season have been wonderful.
Gardner on the other hand has had a truly shocking season.
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| Quote ="St pete"You taking pi$$?
He was rubbish.
I thought wello and long was saints best players.'"
Long? A shadow of his former self. Hull FC fans must be pooping themselves. Eastmond was you stand-out player.
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