Played for Celtic reserves v Wigan reserves at Orrell yesterday and looked overweight and disinterested.

He probably thinks he should be in the 1st team, but reserve grade rugby certainly is doing him no favours, he could have had that playing at Saints. Maybe he should have stayed at Widnes for another season.

It must be frustrating for him, Saints first team to celtic reserves. That said he should get his head down and earn his place in Celtics first team and show what he can do.

So wrong attitude and he'll go nowhere in the game...

It's certainly doing him no favours playing for Celtic reserves. If he's been sent to Celtic to help him develop and gain valuable Superleague experience, then it's turning into a waste of time and should be recalled immediately.

If he's been sent out just to get him off our wage bill until his contract expires, we may as well release the lad.

I think Ste's biggest problem is that he's been having it rammed down his throat for the past five years that he's going to be the next big thing, and he probably thought it was just going to happen for him.

It's a shame really, because he did look an awesome prospect at one stage.

A real shame. TBH if he cant get into the celtic first team he has 0 prospects back at Saints. For me he just isnt quick enough, especially off the mark

I know someone who's daughter was matey with him, and always said he was a touch big headed, maybe that was down to people bigging him up, but it seems that his attitude is all wrong to make it as a pro in RL.

Maybe he was sent to Celtic by the club to judge his reaction, if so, he's failing this test.

Ste Bannister mkII

Banister has the talent it's just his attitude at one stage which let him down, he's back for now for us and i cant wait to see him go. Tyrer has problems in defence and if he can sort that part of his game out he will be a handy player as he can finish.

Wasn't Chris Dean on loan for your lot at the same time as Tyrer? If so how would you compare the two whilst playing in the same team?
In my opinion, in 12 months time Dean will be way ahead of him in the pecking order anyway.

I think the fact Dean is still at saints and very much part of the 1st team squad while Tyrer is playing reserve level at the team likely to get the wooden spoon sums it up ... I watched em both play for Widnes and Tyrer seemed to have found his level tbh

would you say that Dean, was the better player for Widnes, though?

Sorry to say this but Ste Tyrer is yesterday's man.
Dean and Foster are the present. Whether they will be the future remains to be seen.

Tyrer scored a few trys if my memory is correct, but I remember the commentators mentioning how good Dean had been for Widnes a few times whenever they were playing.

Tyrer is an excellent finisher close to the line, but he appears to be unwilling to knuckle down, learn his trade and bide his time, if RG's report is correct. Sad, but thems the breaks for a good percentage of youth players.

Tyrer is a big lad but has never looked like he had the ability to ever make it in Super League. I said it from the start and people criticised me for calling him when he was so young. He'll do well for Rochdale or Keighley I suppose.

I certainly dont feel sorry for him. He isn't, never has been and never will be good enough to play for Saints in the Super League. Even when he was being touted as the next big thing, he couldn't tackle, had no pace and looked over weight.

Yea but apart from that............

In fairness to Steve I believe he had a bad asmha attack when he first went to Celtic and was in hospital for a few days he was told then unless there was a injury crises he would not play Super Leauge.

The very 1st time I saw him I knew he wasn't super league class.

Looks good with ball in hand near the line but his defence was and still is rubbish.

If you miss tackles in the centre then more times than not you pay for it.

Thats a shame but if he is medically fit enough to play in the reserves, he is fit enough to play superleague, he should be trying as hard for both sides

I do feel sorry for him to be honest. Like most young lads who play the game he is, in my opinion, not good enough to make it at the top, but, through no fault of his own, he must have had his expectations built up to a fever pitch.

Saints fans don't build there youngsters up to be the next big thing do they?

Not much!

Tyrer and Smith are two "messiah's" who i dont think we'll see in the vee again

We all do it and I am probably more guilty than most. Some kids just don't seem to be able to take that next step up for whatever reason.

Some of them cannot hack the discipline, some think they've "made it" the minute they get into the first team and some just don't progress.

Some cant handle the pressure? some who look ordinary at academy turn out to be world class, long for example. Some who look world class turn out to be average. A scout is not an easy job

You also have varying levels of physical growth too contend with too. A bigger/stronger player at youth level might look exceptional until his peers physically mature.

Then its a case of whether they are talented enough to adapt.