Where the frick did it go wrong? Ok, so we may never have been the closest bunch, but it appears over the past couple of seasons things have turned into the type of bitchfest we used to see in the days of King Piemon and the Wigoon chavs.

It appears several posters, on both sides want nothing more than to perpetuate the idea that the two don't get on, like the players at the world cup.

The constant sniping, biting and bitching is ultimately tedious. It is immature, irrelevant, and very little rugby actually gets discussed with out it turning into a "he pushed me first."

It's sad really, because after a quiet off season, we picked up, and rugby debate was going really well on here.

Rant over

The only reason the Leeds fans have been bitching is because they lost and have nothing else to talk about, apart from Ryan Bailey.

It surprises me not that YOU posted this.

Why's that then ?

Indeed.

Been like a primary school playground on here all week.

A shame, after what was one of the best games of Rugby League I've seen in a long while.

Because you are one of the worst for 1) biting 2) making feeble attempts to get bites 3) posting complete and utter twoddle.

Indeed, the whole week has been spent masterbating the ego of one player, who on his performance, really didn't deserve it. More worthwhile threads, like Legoheads, dropped off the face of the page in a desperate attempt to argue pointlessly about 7 minutes of the match.

Fair enough.

Well Said





I wouldn't put it quite like that, as saints deserved to win, but we can't wind Bratfut up anymore because there's just no point so we get a bit bored. This is what happens when the top two teams are so evenly matched and we play each other for nearly every honour. sometimes it gets a bit bitchy and pathetic but in the main its just RL banter isnt it?

You can pipe down, you're on my list

What did I do? You've upset me now

Yorkshire Muppets, ban all of them, except Halifax fans cause they have a nice pub called the Paris gates!!

I enjoy it all in all honesty as frankly I've never been able to stand the b@st@rds.

Can't we all just get along

Only if you have a pub in Leeds that sells Timothy Taylors, if not you're banned!

It's all handbags! I've always had a soft spot for Saints since I ended up in your 'end' at the CC Final and even though we won was treated well. Mind in contrast some old bloke did hit me in the mush after the 70-0 match as I was leaning on the barriers and knocked my 'bins' to the floor. Luckily he hit like he had chronic arthritis!

The difference being I credit all the Saints fans for the first experience but only blame the one muppet for the second!
I think both sets of posters care about their respective clubs and defend them with vigour. No harm done.

The rack

To be fair I think it's because each side of the =red[size=200 VICIOUS WAR!!!!!!!!![/size has a massive amount of respect for the other. Leeds know we are all that stands in front of them winning the double and we know without Leeds we would have won said double for the last three years.

Id agree with that completley

it's called rivalry tbh

The board is now tidy.

share the love man

seriously though we wind each other up now because Wigan are

Couldn't agree more Dave,

Frankly i'm getting really narked off with it.

I totally understand the fact that as the best two teams in the Superleague over the last few seasons the rivalry has grown increasingly more intense and as a result of our respective title victories (in all comps) there has been a degree of gloating and counter gloating - this is expected when one team beats another to any trophy especially when two teams such as ours are so evenly matched.

What concerns me is the complete lack of thought, common sense, [urespect [/u(both to individuals and opposing players/teams), and honourability shown by many fans lately when posting on here.

I'm all for a bit of banter but things seen to go way beyond that lately. As Ski mentions in the past we were regularly inundated by Wigan 'trolls' who managed to so regularly get regular bites that eventually virtually all threads turned into bitchfests about Wigan vs Saints. In the end many regular posters were either banned, stayed away or simply posted on redvee.net to find meaningful rugby discussion.

Unfortunately this week has highlighted how many immature, one-eyed/blinkered, vitriolic, spiteful and nonsensical people there are from both sides.

In a week which has seen the tragic death of a very talented young player and a subsequent outpouring of shared grief and support from across the RL community - demonstrated by the volume of messages on the various board - i was once again made to feel proud to be a RL fan.

Sadly I have since been extremely disappointed and at times disgusted by some of the childish backbiting and to-ing and fro-ing in threads both on here and Southstander mostly regarding/stemming from people's differing opinions on Ryan Bailey and his actions.

Every club, and i mean EVERY club has players who will push the rules at some point, and anyone who suggests other wise needs to take a good look at themselves. Players like this will always bring out strong opinions from opposition fans which will in turn bring staunce reponses from the home support, and it is inevitable that arguements will ensue however I for one depise the fact that these feelings spill over into other unrelated threads and ruin them.

I don't know whether it's a generation thing but I don't think the respect is there as much as it used to be on many fan's behalf, maybe it is due to arrogance on some people's parts i don't know? I hoped as a Saints fan that if we continued to be successful throughout (and beyond) the first decade of Superleague, that we would retain our dignity and not become the overtly arrogant lot that we so often accused the Pie-Eaters of being but evidently it has happened to some degree.

You can be rivals and still retain some decorum and respect for the achievements of your opponents and you don't have to take the worst behavior of others as a standard for yourself. You can choose to be better than that.

Lets try to be the bigger man and get back to discussing rugby league in a more eloquent, enlightened and educated manner and lessen the trolling, tit-for-tat arguments and bitching please!!!