www.superleague.co.uk/report/10030 16 errors and 34 missed tackles is all that's really needed to know. Standouts include: Percival and Swifts combined 10 missed tackles showing precisely which edge hkr targeted and had a lot of success with. Wilkin and Hohaias combined 6 errors showing the halfbacks led from the front with how the team handled the ball (and a special non stat mention to Wilkins failing to find touch, and hohaia kicking it out on the full after a break) Flanaghan and Richards contributing 23 metres and 29 metres respectively. I can only assume Jones took the role of playing the last 10 minutes as he contributed a grand total of 3 metres. Our forwards who did make metres negated it by missing 4 tackles (lms Thompson soliola)

www.superleague.co.uk/report/10030 16 errors and 34 missed tackles is all that's really needed to know. Standouts include: Percival and Swifts combined 10 missed tackles showing precisely which edge hkr targeted and had a lot of success with. Wilkin and Hohaias combined 6 errors showing the halfbacks led from the front with how the team handled the ball (and a special non stat mention to Wilkins failing to find touch, and hohaia kicking it out on the full after a break) Flanaghan and Richards contributing 23 metres and 29 metres respectively. I can only assume Jones took the role of playing the last 10 minutes as he contributed a grand total of 3 metres. Our forwards who did make metres negated it by missing 4 tackles (lms Thompson soliola)

Lms seems to have had a better game

Percival has missed 12 tackles in the last 2 games, that needs to stop!

I have to say us only making 9 errors in a game is extraordinary though.

thats excellent for any team

Not many carries from our pack

They put their feet up after their hard work of last week.

The all had bad backs from all the back slapping they gave each other from last two games.

Not kidding when I say probably our best game for 2 years.

I'm at a loss, the stats tell no more than the score.

Another thumping loss.

I'm pretty sure the Wigan and Cas results show that we can back it up when we want to. But it does seem to be a matter of when the players want to.

What would be nice would be if they could send out an email before people set off to watch the match as to whether they would be bothering themselves.

To be honest it reminds me a little of Saints pre-SL.

You would not know what to get some weeks depending on who we were playing.

What I would say is it once again exposes the lack of a halfback at Saints once Walsh is gone.

Again it shows Roby doing 100% more tackling than most forwards and in some cases did 100% more than 2 forwards.

I blame the way Superleague is structured for the loss yesterday

The match didn't matter really to the players because they know we'll finish in the top 4?

Castlford they had to back up from getting beat in France
Wigan is Wigan and we/us fans demand a win

Hull KR just another 2 pts

So you don't blame the fact that you were outplayed, out enthused, out tackled, just the structure of SL. Amazing.

No doubt they were. But the Saints team that deservedly beat us the week before would have walloped you if they had tried. Don't kid yourselves that you are about to win Super League because you beat the top team.

The previous poster is correct. The fact that the top 5 teams are seperated by just 2 points shows that no-one is bothered by the league ladder. It's all about the playoffs and getting ready for them. The fact that Leeds can win it from 5th and Wigan from 4th proves that.

All very regretable, but true nonetheless.

Under no illusions where we are, which is a side not going to win SL by a long way.

I just think that comments like yours and Rommel's are insulting to both sets of players, I am sure Saints never laid down and gave us the win, in fact if you had been there you might get your facts right, we deserved the win through good attacking play and excellent defence. Occasionally these results spring up, just give the winning side some credit for once and not look for excuses for why a top team lost.

I think the points he is trying to make is that Saints have a habit of switching off in games (as do alot of the top teams) looking at other bigger games to target during the season.

It's not the first time this season we've put in a big performance then backed it up with a very poor one, which as a Saints fan is frustrating to say the least.

I don't think anyone is saying Hull KR didn't deserve the win because they clearly were miles better than us, the scoreline is indicative of that. Certainly at home to us you seem to raise your game.

im not surprised Soliola, Manu and LMS had good stats, those 3 were your best players yesterday I thought. Some glimpses of Roby but we did a pretty good job on him. Mosoe smashed everything that moved but really needs to take the ball in more often.

Having been one of LMS biggest critics this year, fair play to him for being one of the only players to back up with a performance (by all accounts, I was listening on the radio).

More next week please louie.

As for the performance, with players as inconsistent and limited as Wilkin and lance as our halves we're always going to turn in some horror shows. Seeing them two faffing around must such some serious confidence from the side.

Will brown play Wheeler next week? HHe should after such an abhorrent halves showing.

Thing is though the problem was with Wilkin AND Lance but only Lance will be dropped so we will still have a problem, called Wilkin. Wilkin will never be dropped no matter what he does on the pitch.

Unlike you to defend lance

Would rather see Charnock get a chance - ripping it up in the 19s by all accounts, has a kicking game, and is the future of our club, and needs game time to progress. Wheeler is out at the end of the year.

Lance and charnock could work quite well imo.

I'm not keen on blooding a noob at this time of year, injuries permitting obviously, but I'd like to see this kid given a go simply because so many people have been bigging him up (always a dangerous thing to do when it comes to young players!).

I've said same thing all year that only certain players get dropped when others have been stinking the place out nearly all year.

I agree, it's a silly time of year to be blooding youngsters (which is why I was calling for him to play vs London last time!) but I'd of called for him to play at London anyway, and the dire performance this week just brings the point forward - something's got to change from last week!

Seems to dictate the u19s in a similar way to Walsh with us, always gets multiple mentions in reports etc - I'm surprised he wasn't picked to play vs widnes

Brown has said he's not ready.

We can get away with lance at 6 when Walsh is playing but we can't when Walsh is out. We are back to square one when Walsh doesn't play and that's why stand off is priority.

In the end it will not (should not) matter who plays 6 or 7 against London or Bradford.

We should win those. Then hopefully Walsh might be fit to go again when the trickier ties come along.

I know people will say it should be the same against Hull KR. But Wilkin needs to be on his game to stand up against an average side. Against poor sides he should be able to have a smoke behind the bike sheds and not be missed.