Of all the bizarre decisions that's gone against Saints in past ten years , or so, Ian Smith seems to be a the centre of most. The tries I've seen awarded this season by the video ref, and he goes and disallows two against us. I can accept the second one, but no way should the first have been chalked off.

I really think this fellow has a problem St.Helens. I can recount a catalogue of shocking, and some down right disgraceful, decisions given against us.

I mentioned that myself. He is the only referee that I ever considered to have an actual dislike for Saints, whilst others can be incompetent, I can't figure out any other way to justify Smith's actions over the years.

I thought we had got away from him when he 'retired'

and who is this idiot of a ref, not giving that penalty when wilkin was clearly pushed as he tried to play the ball near their line. nob.
cant blame the weather. we are not going to win this.

Eastmond scored, should have been a try. I would even go as far as saying that Lomax could possibly have been a try too. Give those and i can't see us losing from there.

Child was very poor too, but poor for both teams. The decisions at the end was the correct though, Lynch took Gaskell out.

In the end I'll accept the draw after todays other results.

An absolutely shocking decision this one. Benefit of the doubt? No. Benefit of the doubt to the non-St Helens side.

With Smith as VR there was no way the decisions were going our way.The guy is blatantly biased against us.

Well done Foster-nerves of steel to kick that penalty.

In the second half we wasted virtually every set in their 25 (and there weren't many) with sloppy play eg throwing passes 20 metres as if it was a dry day.Shame the weather was so bad as on a dry day I am sure we would have hammered them

The guy is a joke. simple as

Terrible decision by Smith

Should the club formally complain? Seemed like Royce was steaming about it. Daniel Anderson would have slandered his whole family tree in the post match interview if he had been around for that.

i switched off when they said eastmond lost the ball with about 1.30 mins to go.

God knows why Cummings gave him a job as VR.

He was inept as a ref and is just the same now as a VR.

The Wigoons have the same problem with Phil Bentham, maybe Cummings has a club handicap system. Each ref selects a team to be biased on for 5 year term or something.

First was a try for me, second was the right decision.

The RFL have apparently confirmed that Bradford's first try was scored on their 7th tackle. Investigating it now, according to Twitter.

No smoke without fire, and all that.

If found to be accurate and acted upon, what would that mean? Would we be awarded the extra point due to the try, if taken away, would affect the result, or just a fine/talking to.

I didnt think the first one was a try but he should of at least been given the benefit of doubt as it did look like the ball was lifted.

They certainly won't change the result. They will no doubt make nothing public and give Childs £250 worth of gift vouchers and a pat on the back for trying.

I think we did it earlier in the season when we beat Cas at home didn't we?

SKY removed their banner at the bottom of the screen on the previous tackle, which they had deemed the last, so there could be something in it. Not that the result will be changed or anything, but you would have thought one of our lads would have questioned it at the time.

Probably, would be hilarious if they gave us a 14-8 win though, just to hear the reaction....they were mad enough losing one point!

That was a back to one thing, Cas player played at a little kick through, we retained the ball and promptly scored, setting up the Wide to Meli moment....

Nah, it was back to one.

I think we should be compensated for the Bradford seventh tackle try though. I'd suggest Bradford can keep their one point but we should be given an extra point as they would not have been ahead had they not been given that try from the fourth dimension.

An extra point. That would do me.

You know what, I'd appreciate an apology more than an extra point. Hearing them say they got it wrong and are sorry would be great.

They're not going to give us a point. It sets a dangerous.precedent.
How long will it take them investigate it. I'll do it for them.

Twenty metre restart
Tackle 1 Lynch
Tackle 2 Kopczak
Tackle 3 Langley
Tackle 4 Sibbit
Tackle 5 Lynch
Tackle 6 Jeffries
Then a kick.

I can't wait for 'never do wrong' cummings' response

Am I right in thinking that Lomax's try was dissallowed for obstruction, even thought the obstructed defender managed to land a full whack on him only to bounce off?

Or was there someone else who was obstructed?

exactly, we are never going to get the point awarded to us, but the admission of a major mistake of a referee, with the ref and his touch judges, plus the video ref - who each should have spotted his mistake - getting a demotion for a couple of weeks would be a start.