I don't know if anyone here is on redvee.net and seen the shirt im going to get made. I did have one made last season and it went down a treat with the people who bought them.

I have slightly altered a few things to get round the copyright. The stickman is slightly changed and the 'St. Helens Glass' is still a registered company, so I replaced Glass with Class. Some people think thats tacky and cheap but I don't think it does at all. I have added redvee.net or superleaguefans.com but im still waiting to see if I can use them on the shirt. If not then they will be removed

The name and number is optional.

Anyway here's the drawing I've made up based on the 84 shirt that Mal Meninga wore when he was at Saints. This is the shirt people are like and I only need 12 to put an order in. If your interested just let me know and I keep you updated with any developments.

Last year the shirt I got made was £35 which included everything. If you need it delivering to your address because you live outside of St. Helens then I'll delivery it but I would need an extra £2 to cover the recorded delivery costs.

i love this shirt!

Cheers mate. Got a couple of people on twitter after them too. I have enough people to put an order in tomorrow already lol

Is it too late to order one??? I'd like one in a Large but not sure how i'd get the money over for you......Paypal??

This is my final design and I still need to get a final drawing the supplier before it gets signed off mate. Where do you live? I'll only start collecting money when I've had the final drawing.

I'll have one as well. Please Pm me with details on ordering and how I can pay you.

Great job!! Well done

why would you puy superleague fans on in it? the era is well before superleague.....

Its superleaguefans.com, which is a RL forum. The guy who runs the site has done me a few favours and it helps him spread the word of his site to fans who might not know about them. Same goes for having redvee.net on the back too.

I like this too and would like one. Please can you pm me with ordering details?.

I'll drop you a PM now mate

I'd say it was a 'nod' to that era, as opposed to an out and out copy of the shirt worn.

Having bought the last shirt Rally did, i can say it is an excellent design and made from good quality material. Alot of saints fans asking where it was sold, I shall be purchasing the Meninga shirt from Rally. Well worth the cash

thought Rugby league did not exist in 84?

of course it did, we won the premiership! 87-95 didnt happen though

I'm gonna offer some (hopefully) constructive criticism and hope I don't come across as a bitchy/whinging c***...

I love the idea behind this, however, compared to the shirt you did last year I think this scores low. The original (as seen [url=http://www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/home/viewpage.phphere[/url for those who don't remember it) looks so good because of its simplicity. This new imagining of the design is a bit 'busy' and your badges and the sponsor text are very much out of proportion (i.e. too big).

Personally I would make it a bit 'cleaner' and more retro looking by a) losing the white bits from the shoulders etc, b) making the St.Helens Class logo smaller and more compact, c) making the two website logos much smaller and putting them on the bottom of the sleeves and d) putting the town crest on the neck and ditching the supporters crest you created (which I can't find it in me to like, sorry).

But then it's your design and project to do with as you will and clearly people like it so I'll shut up now.

I would drop all the logos personally and just leave the basics.

But as Tony said, it's your project, not sure how you get on with stickman copyright though....

As a shirt design fanatic, my own critique for what its worth is that I like this a lot because it really stands out from other similar kits that have been marketed in this design. If you drop the logos then what makes this unique from the other re-issues of this shirt down the years? You're bound to attract curiosity wearing this.

My only criticism is the crest. It should always be the centrepiece of a kit. It looks messy and lacks symmetry. The text needs tightening up basically. I think it would look good if both the text curved around the stickman, and make it symmetrical. But whatever, that needs cleaning up and then the kit is the finished article. Great job rally.

Dont know if its me or your link, but clicking on "here" got me no-where, sorry would have liked to have seen last years

I'm a sucker for the logos look. It gives a real 80s NRL feel to it and I like that.

I don't mind people letting me know what they do and don't like.

A)I understand what you mean about the white stripes but I was after adding a little bit of modern twist to the shirt.

B)The size of the images on the sleeve do look over sized but they would look smaller when the suppliers done their techincal drawing of the shirt.

C)Again the website logos won't big so big on the final drawing but I did consider putting them on the back.

D) Not everyone likes the same things and if we did we'd all be boring. I haven't taken any offence to you not liking the supporters badge.



The stickman is different if you look closely





Yeah I get what you mean. The reason why im using the stickman is because that was on the shirt at the time. I was thinking of having 'St. Helens Rugby League Supporters' curve around the stickman, but for some reason I haven't been about to do this on photoshop!

I wanted to include the town crest in the shirt because rugby league teams seem to have lost touch when in comes to heritage. I have moved the logo to the back below the collar. Any better?

Is this one any better?

That does look ace bud.

Cheers pal

how can i get one? what sizes would you go up to? im a big fella, so is my grandad who would like this shirt

Quote ="meninga the legend"how can i get one? what sizes would you go up to? im a big fella, so is my grandad who would like this shirt'" They are £37 but if you need it delivering it will cost and extra £2 to cover the cost of recorded delivery. I live in st helens so if you are local I can easily meet up with you. The sizes go up to xxxxxl mate. Here is a size chart www.oneills.com/sizeguide.aspx If your interested drop me a PM if you want more info

Quote ="meninga the legend"how can i get one? what sizes would you go up to? im a big fella, so is my grandad who would like this shirt'" They are £37 but if you need it delivering it will cost and extra £2 to cover the cost of recorded delivery. I live in st helens so if you are local I can easily meet up with you. The sizes go up to xxxxxl mate. Here is a size chart www.oneills.com/sizeguide.aspx If your interested drop me a PM if you want more info

Quote ="rally2001"They are £37 but if you need it delivering it will cost and extra £2 to cover the cost of recorded delivery. I live in st helens so if you are local I can easily meet up with you. The sizes go up to xxxxxl mate. Here is a size chart www.oneills.com/sizeguide.aspx If your interested drop me a PM if you want more info'" on that size chart are you getting them in "max club mens jersey," "max tight fit jersey," regular fit rugby jersey," or "slim fit rugby jersey"

Quote ="rally2001"They are £37 but if you need it delivering it will cost and extra £2 to cover the cost of recorded delivery. I live in st helens so if you are local I can easily meet up with you. The sizes go up to xxxxxl mate. Here is a size chart www.oneills.com/sizeguide.aspx If your interested drop me a PM if you want more info'" on that size chart are you getting them in "max club mens jersey," "max tight fit jersey," regular fit rugby jersey," or "slim fit rugby jersey"