You will be biased just like I am but remember what I said as a full back which many of us still think the game should be played a full back was first and foremost a defensive rock Wello beats everyone on that score. Safe under a high ball Wello again. Then you come up to the speed to line link which historically only really Paul Charlton did well. That is what Rads and the redefined half backs like Tomkins and Lomax are exceptional at and over distance as well. They also have better hands as well.

Senior played an extra 7 seasons of Super League, that's why he edges Newlove IMO. Plus could never imagine Newlove in a Wigan shirt, one of the players I truly hated as a kid.

What has you seeing him in a Wigan shirt got to do with his ability. Also, with regards to your other argument, Stuart Littler played approximately 10 extra seasons than Jamie Lyon, it doesn't make him the better player.

Two things

Senior better than newlove, seriously, have you watched rugby?

Wellens better than Tomkins? Give your head a massive shake .

Wigans win ratio with and without tomkins in the side tells how good he is, he's a once in 10 yr player, best ever in SL? Possibly but it's all opinion. For me it's Scully, could play any position prop to 6 and be star quality