And in return your getting a stand off who does not take the line on, cannot spot a decent a pass to save his life, puts his head down when pressure in on, gets caught in possesion because his still not realised what he is actually going to do with the ball, doesent make himself available for last option kicks (which is a shame because his got a decent boot) misses shed fulls of tackles, ohh and he likes a good sulk.

A turd for a turd.

What he is on is not in dispute. It is what he has been offered that I am talking about. As I said I could have misheard and he has been offered a £12,000 rise as opposed to a £12,000 Salary. I didn't see my mate at the weekend as he is working away but I will see him ASAP to confirm.

Are you serious in your view that Matty Smith and Scott Moore are good enough for a quality Saints team such as the 2006 team which is what we should be aiming for Scott Moore for godness sake get a grip

This is that ridiculous argument again - neither would get in our 2006 team but the players we had then just don't exist anymore and it's pointless to mourn the fact that Saints or other clubs no longer have that quality to call on...

Agreed and Matty Smith is a better than any other 7 we have at the moment. He would walk into our current team, the fact he isn't a patch on Sean Long is irrelevant.

Ironical statement.