You must not have been watching us last year then because even though 2010 wasn't exactly Saints of 1996/2000/2002 or 2006 we have been a whole lot better to watch than last year.

Last year we failed to break the 20 point barrier in the last 12 matches or something similar. This year we've been scoring for fun, although mostly close range.

2009 really was the year of 5 drives and a crap kick, even if we got that far. This year was a lot better.

There is no way that this year was worse than last for entertainment value.

I'd say that most teams have wingers and centres that are much faster than ours, or they always seem to anyway.

If you look at those teams around us (Warrington, Wigan and Leeds), they have:

Warrington: Hicks, Riley, King.
Wigan: Richards, Roberts, Goulding.
Leeds: Hall, Donald.

Who have scored some lengthy trys this season, and those are just off the top of my head, they probably have others. When was the last time we scored a length of the field try?

When we make breaks, we always seem to get caught, so obviously teams have much faster players than us. We don't get the space because we are not fast enough and we always get caught.

I just think that as well as being a bit short of pace, our game plan has dictated that perhaps we only tend to spread the ball when we're in the opposition 20m. I'll tell you another problem, only having one proper centre. In 2004 Willie Talau was on fire until Gleeson got his betting ban. After that his form was severly reduced, due to the opposition only having to defend one side of the pitch against a proper centre and the other side against a 2nd row standing in the centre. Therefore, the fitness of wheeler (who I thought was looking more and more like a proper centre), or the integration of Tom Armstrong is an important factor.

I'd agree with that. Just the other day, i was talking to my dad about the last time we actually had two out and out centres in the side, and we still don't IMO. Unless one of the youngsters can step up and make that position there own, we still only have one centre in Shenton. Although Meli shown glimpses that he could become a good centre.

I think Wheeler could do it. I think he's shown some really nice touches and IIRC even did Matt King on the outside once last season, looking every bit the natural centre. Although I'm a little disspaointed by the lack of oppotunity Tom Armstorng got towards the end of the season.

i know we finished 2cnd and got to the grand final (with our usual loss).
but in all honestly we must be the slowest team in superleague.
as someone mentioned after the likes of sullivan, darren albert, jamie lyon etc
speed and back up have never been replaced at our club.