I find that a very strange quote given that Saints Under 18's have also finished in the top 5 teams of the Valvoline Academy phase 1 and if true that is a damning indictment on the club in terms of their attitude to player development.

I'd be interested to know who at Saints doesn't rate the 18s given the amount of resources being pushed their way.

For the record Widnes Under 16s were unbeaten this year and the club have just signed 13 of those boys despite interest and offers from Super League Clubs

i can assure you he is !!!!!

Josh greaves is crap....don't no who the coach is at that age but playing him at centre was a huge mistake!!!! Never seen a guy get rounded so easily on the edge!!! Needs lose sum weight aswel no were near fit enough!!

Aye ok.

Not bad when you recall that it wasn't all that long ago that Widnes pretty much abandoned youth development in order to improve their chances on getting into the top flight.

Yet he is well established in the U18's set up and unbeaten as Captain....hmmm have a think about what your saying next time please.