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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Well i could probably agree with that.
Dont believe the hype Public Enemy
Stars in their eyes Just Jack'"
On a slight tangent, look up '50p' by Dirty Revolution, I don't think they believe in hype.
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"On a slight tangent, look up '50p' by Dirty Revolution, I don't think they believe in hype.'"
I like that but it does remind me a bit of the fear by Lilly Allen
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"Why I hate The Beatles with a passion. A short essay by Scooter Nik.
Musical history revisionism isn't a new thing. Apparently Elvis invented Rock and Roll, despite his early material being covers of earlier hits by black artists. What he actually did was to popularise a music that most of the American record buying public (ie white college kids) wouldn't otherwise have come across, the charts being populated with Perry Como, Frank Sinatra and similar bland swing acts. Fair play to him there, he released a beast that is still chewing up the musical world 60 years on (He's dead though, get over it).
Move forward to the sixties, and you have a young group starting out. They start as every young group does, covering other people's material. The difference here is that although they're covering black artists, in much the way Elvis did, these acts are by this point well known amongst the young music fan of the day (Motown was a 'known', although not very important at this point, label). They took those songs, reworked them in a way that took any real passion out of them, and unleashed them on the unknowing British record buying masses (as opposed to 'music fan'), allying it to a cute and cuddly public image. The first boy band in short.
The Beatles 'invented' the British beat sound - by washing US R&B to the point where it was a pale copy of the originals. At the same time, other British bands - noteably The Stones, The Animals, Manfred Mann - were covering the same material in a more authentic, and thus less palatteable manner . Compare The Stones and The Beatles versions of Barratt Strong's 'Money' for a fine example of this.
But the lovable scouse moptops were credited with somehow inventing a 'new' sound. By p1shing the originals out.
Now let's move on to the mid 60s. The Beatles have continued to thrive, living high on the back of bland pop songs and a massive fan base, largely fuelled by media photos of them arriving wherever they went to screaming hordes of largely prepubescent females (Hi there Bay City Rollers and Take That, are you taking notes?) and the odd 'witty' soundbite from the 'rebel' in the band, Lennon.
The Beatles discover harder drugs, and a new sound coming out of the US. Jumping on the bandwagon, they appropriate this sound too, to the extent they are now often credited with inventing psychadelia, despite it having been kicking around in the US for a couple of years earlier!
Finally the band implodes. They play a famous gig on top of their property and call it a day.
This wonderful band fragments. McCartney vanishes off doing rather twee child-level songs (despite his proclaimed song writing genius), Lennon (Ever the master manipulator of the media) stays in bed with Yoko, declaring 'Give Peace A Chance' as if it is some hugely radical idea that no one has ever thought of before, despite people having marched against the bomb since the late 50s. Harrison comes off the best ironically, having saved his material/been sidelined by Lennon/McCartney throughout The Beatles carreer. Starr? Well... he was a drummer. Enough said.
And this is why I consider The Beatles the most overhyped band of all time.'"
If you can, get a copy of "Living Life Without Loving the Beatles."
You will bloody love it!
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| Quote ="Mike Oxlong"Muse!!
And any of that emo 5hit like MCR, Fall Out Boy, Panic At The Disco etc.
Oh, and Kings Of Leon - talk about overrated crap!!!'"
Have you heard the early Kings of Leon stuff?
The last two albums were rubbish,main stream mum rock,but before that they were a great band.
Youth and young manhood and aha shake heartbreak are two top class albums,you would think it was two different bands.
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| Huey Lewis & the News.
And the Beatles.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Im am glad this thread was about bands people hate which allows everyone to just vent their prejudices rather than bands you like where you would all have been trying to be crawling up each others backsides with pseudo intellectual bull.
Hating the beatles because they took the limelight away from The stones is hilarious.
The rolling stones are resposnible for that. If they had all died in a plane crash about 1980 they would have had a great music legacy and would have been regarded as a great band.
At least the Beatles had the good sense to break up before they become a laughing stock and a parody of a rock band and not release shoite for 3 decades.
As for not liking REM because they are miserable and not mentioning the Smiths or Morrisey at the same time is laughable.
REM were a great band and spoke to a lot of people at the time. Any band who can make people think that The one I love is a love song deserve respect.
Personally i hate any UK bands trying to be some sort of american gangstas , Garage and crooners like Jamie Cullum , Michael Buble and their copycat from the X factor'"
It would be hilarious if anyone had said it but they didn't. In my case it was a specific reference that IMHO (you get what that means don't you) Jaggers lyrics were massively better than either Lennon or Macca, yet strangely never credited for it by the Beatle fawning British media. That was all, other than that I see no way in which the Beatles interfered with the Stones or vice versa - they both did rather well for themselves.
As far as I'm aware the Stones are considered by most people as a great or at least important band with a great legacy regardless of not dying when required by you. I mean listen to yourself and how ludicrous you sound. They chose to carry on doing what they do best, big wow. I assume we should dismiss Muddy Waters or Bo Diddly and many others for having the audacity to perform whilst old! What utter and cliched nonsense you spout.
As for the Beatles having the good sense to break up, yep did em the world of good. Without Harrisons valiant efforts L&M wouldn't have produced enough decent material to fill an EP after 1970. Especially Lennon who's output was self indulgent crud. They broke up because Lennon in particular was an egomaniac with a manipulative wife, nothing to do with music or legacy and we all know it.
Still you got your wish and I can only assume Chapman is a hero to you for putting a bullet into Lennon and instantly giving him a legacy and making him great in a way he wouldn't have been alive. This is your theory not mine.
I see now your grasp of popular culture is nearly a poor as you grasp of RL.
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| Joni Mitchell... Musical kryptonite!
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| If there was a thread for acts that I find it very hard to show any passion for, either love or hate, it would be Huey Lewis & The News.
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"If there was a thread for acts that I find it very hard to show any passion for, either love or hate, it would be Huey Lewis & The News.'"
I hate Huey Lewis & The News but that scene from American Psycho is fantastic.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Im am glad this thread was about bands people hate which allows everyone to just vent their prejudices rather than bands you like where you would all have been trying to be crawling up each others backsides with pseudo intellectual bull.
Hating the beatles because they took the limelight away from The stones is hilarious.
The rolling stones are resposnible for that. If they had all died in a plane crash about 1980 they would have had a great music legacy and would have been regarded as a great band.
At least the Beatles had the good sense to break up before they become a laughing stock and a parody of a rock band and not release shoite for 3 decades.
As for not liking REM because they are miserable and not mentioning the Smiths or Morrisey at the same time is laughable.
REM were a great band and spoke to a lot of people at the time. Any band who can make people think that The one I love is a love song deserve respect.
Personally i hate any UK bands trying to be some sort of american gangstas , Garage and crooners like Jamie Cullum , Michael Buble and their copycat from the X factor'"
You can blame Yoko Ono for The Beatles splitting up.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"You can blame Yoko Ono for The Beatles splitting up.'"
Or thank her.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Im am glad this thread was about bands people hate which allows everyone to just vent their prejudices rather than bands you like where you would all have been trying to be crawling up each others backsides with pseudo intellectual bull.
Hating the beatles because they took the limelight away from The stones is hilarious.
The rolling stones are resposnible for that. If they had all died in a plane crash about 1980 they would have had a great music legacy and would have been regarded as a great band.
[uAt least the Beatles had the good sense to break up before they become a laughing stock and a parody of a rock band and not release shoite for 3 decades.[/u
As for not liking REM because they are miserable and not mentioning the Smiths or Morrisey at the same time is laughable.
REM were a great band and spoke to a lot of people at the time. Any band who can make people think that The one I love is a love song deserve respect.
Personally i hate any UK bands trying to be some sort of american gangstas , Garage and crooners like Jamie Cullum , Michael Buble and their copycat from the X factor'"
I give you
Yellow submarine
Obladi oblada
I am the Walrus
Your mother should know
Octopus's garden
Maxwells silver hammer
Revolution #9
That's close enough to being laughing stock for me.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I give you
Yellow submarine
Obladi oblada
I am the Walrus
Your mother should know
Octopus's garden
Maxwells silver hammer
Revolution #9
That's close enough to being laughing stock for me.
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To be fair that is the consequence of writing music whilst doing loads of drugs and letting Paul McCartney have the pen when songs were being written.
I quite like the Walrus song reminds me a bit of Edward Lear and was apparently Lennon taking the mickey out of people trying to interpret his lyrics so was meant to be a bit of a mickey take.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Adele. Hands-down THE most over-hyped artist of the last 20 years, hands-down.'"
I agree with you 100%.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"I agree with you 100%.'"
Cheers.
the thing with her is, she's no better than the likes of Amy MacDonald, Rumer, to name a couple, but she made a few hormonal women cry their eyes out at the Brits in 2011, and she became a megastar. Grammys, Brits, bloody OSCARS! Please. I'm not saying she can't write, but she is bland as beige, and her voice... ugh, nails on blackboard. You can't criticise her either, else you just get told ''you don't like her because she's fat'' Emile Sande is the same, only slightly less annoying.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"Cheers.
the thing with her is, she's no better than the likes of Amy MacDonald, Rumer, to name a couple, but she made a few hormonal women cry their eyes out at the Brits in 2011, and she became a megastar. Grammys, Brits, bloody OSCARS! Please. I'm not saying she can't write, but she is bland as beige, and her voice... ugh, nails on blackboard. You can't criticise her either, else you just get told ''you don't like her because she's fat''
[size=150Emile Sand[/sizee is the same, only slightly less annoying.'"
The low point of the Olympic ceremony for me, what a tuneless durge that was.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"To be fair that is the consequence of writing music whilst doing poop loads of drugs and letting Paul McCartney have the pen when songs were being written.
I quite like the Walrus song reminds me a bit of Edward Lear and was apparently Lennon taking the mickey out of people trying to interpret his lyrics so was meant to be a bit of a mickey take.'"
You would, the most "pseudo intellectual bull" song ever written with a revisionist attempt to pass it off as a micky take - yeah right love it pure gold.
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| Quote ="vastman"You would, the most "pseudo intellectual bull" song ever written with a revisionist attempt to pass it off as a micky take - yeah right
love it pure gold.'"
so you dont think it was related to being out of their heads on Acid then. Maybe you think the stories of drug use were made up to cover up some naff songs being written.
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| I quite like the Oasis cover of Walrus
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"so you dont think it was related to being out of their heads on Acid then. Maybe you think the stories of drug use were made up to cover up some naff songs being written.'"
One of my favourite stories, and kind of went to disuade the John the Messiah of Principle Lennon myth is the story of Maxwell's Silver Hammer (which I maintain is the worst song ever, worse than Black Eyed Peas, Rebecca Black or anything by Train).
John Lennon refused to have any input into it. Point blank. He hated it. But he still took a writing credit. A writing credit for something that was all Paul McCartney's doing.
Now, I appreciate they shared writing responsbility. But if you are going to storm out of a studio over something, then you don't take the credit (and money) over it.
Next line of evidence for the Beatle's myth being blown wide open, Let It Be... Naked. Take away all of Phil Spector's hard work, you have what can only be described as a musical disaster.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"so you dont think it was related to being out of their heads on Acid then. Maybe you think the stories of drug use were made up to cover up some naff songs being written.'"
So by your reckoning they must have been clean when they wrote the better stuff - make your mind up.
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| Quote ="100% Wire"The Script
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You'll hate them even more afer they've just been on the BBC Breakfast sofa promoting their shoite new song!
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| Not really much of a hater myself... I always find it weird the pleasure people get from dissing different artists and genres. I have my fav's, some that I like less than others but the passion it seems to drum up in folk always leaves me slightly baffled, as though the artist has tried to offend them by creating music that they don't like
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