I can't seem to find it, can you post a link or a quote?

They have done what you suggested " sack him " he made the decision not to return, so what other choices do the club have.

The registration of a player is an asset to a club and you don't just give away assets.

Also keep in mind Segeyaro said its not about the money its about happiness so why worry, he is happy.

Leeds are trying to nip it in the bud by holding his registration, you cant say point made when all he has missed is the off season. He can easily take a wage from Cronulla on lower terms and buy out his registration from Leeds if he wants to play that bad.

Let him rot.

Very interesting.

Seems like threats were issued during the meeting in Sydney.


This places the whole issue in an entirely different light.


How could Segeyaro be looking forward to next season with the Rhinos when he and his agent were confronted in a meeting in Sydney with the consequences should he choose not return?

I don't get the hand-wringing on Segeyaro's behalf. The bad luck he's had is following on from the Hardaker farce of last year and at a time when players walking away from contracts has become a hot topic.

As an aside Aussie courts have upheld sporting contracts in the past - Gorden Tallis sat out the entire 1996 season rather than play for St George because he wanted to move to the Broncos, with a court ruling that he couldn't just walk away from his contract with St George.

You do realise the part you underlined isn't actually a quote from GH.

I'm not interested in your feeble attempt to assist your mate in the construction of his latest straw man.

He will be online soon to add more straw.

I don't need to add anything, i'm still waiting for an actual quote from GH.
All you've done is reposted my original quote and underlined something that the reporter claimed. It doesn't work like that i'm afraid.

When has that ever mattered to these jokers?

You just can't leave that straw alone, can you?



Why does it have to be an actual quote from GH?

Why can't it be an official statement from the club which stated that Segeyaro was looking forward to next season with the Rhinos, which is what Gotcha alluded to earlier?

Would you like me to provide a link to that officially released statement by the club?

A club statement released on 23 Nov 2016 at 10:50am which said, and I quote... [iLeeds Rhinos Chief Executive Gary Hetherington has confirmed that James Segeyaro will remain at the club and is looking forward to next season with the Rhinos.[/i

In light of what the CEO has now said, the above statement on 23 Nov was patently a fabrication.

Feel free to pay another visit to your barn.

It doesn't but it has to be linked to the club, like the quote you've now [ifinally[/i provided below.

The thing is, is that when posters like yourself & Gotcha, who have a very long history of making stuff up, start posting random quotes and stating them as fact then they just can't be taken seriously. The fact that no one on here believes a word you say is your doing and no one else's so to start spitting your dummy out and throwing insults around when you're asked to back something up is just comical.



OK, so he did say that Segeyaro was looking forward to returning. See, it's not hard to provide quotes or links when you're telling the truth, you should try it more in the future.

I wasn't at the meeting but maybe, after GH issued his warnings, that's actually what James or his agent said... even if it was just to get rid of GH so they could go to the beach or whatever.

We'll never know for sure.



....and even if he didn't then what difference does it make to Segeyaro breaking his contract and refusing to come back this season?

I know you like the word straw but it seems like you're really grasping for some with this i'm afraid.

Maybe Hetherington told Segeyaro that he would have to honour his contract and return to the UK and suggested consequences if that did not happen, Segeyaro along with his agent said Ok in order to buy themselves time. From that Heatherington then had the club release the statement to ensure that the return would be smooth.

The only ones who know are the ones in that room. Not all details have been released and whilst Hetheringtons statement is no seen to be incorrect, Segeyaro has been proven to be not altogether honest in his dealings, and his agents comments that have come to light appear to be even worse.

It is just not black and white that on either party's information and we are all making assumptions based on partial information of a meeting between the two

Doesn't really change anything, whatever the truth of what was discussed. We know that both parties are capable of speaking less than honestly; the impasse between them remains as before.

So what I said on page 100 that seems to have got certain posters with ants in their pants, Loiner81 after posting usual none related arguments, now accepts it did come from the club. So we are back to page 100. Loiner81 would be better off staying away from debates on here, due to the constant failures that just result in bad mouthing,

The thead that keeps on (and on and on and on) giving

Ryan Bailey will be jealous.

To sum things up then;

- Some people think the club should just cut ties and let Segeyaro move on (and maybe take action against him personally)
- Some people think the club should hold him to task and let him rot if need be
- Some believe Segeyaro's tale of homesickness, some don't
- Everyone agrees Segeyaro and his manager have acted like tools throughout this whole episode

Hopefully there's a resolution soon - it's doing nobody any favours the longer it drags on. Segeyaro isn't earning and Leeds are starting to look a little bitter and uncompasionate (which could well affect future recruitment from Oz). Time to get it sorted one way or another.

Whilst it did come from the club, there is no proof that they were lying at that time. There was a meeting, the outcome of which no one on this board knows. We do understand that GH advised JS and his agent of the consequences of not returning. What JS and his agent said no one knows, but he's had a history of making statements that suit him at the time, and some of his agents statements, that I have seen posted on here are off the wall.

Isn't earning??? Come on let's not pretend Cromulla won't be looking after the guy financially with him training with them.

So when you posted GH's quotation earlier, which I assume you obtained from an official source linked to the club, why did you omit any mention of the following... [i"Leeds Rhinos Chief Executive Gary Hetherington has confirmed that James Segeyaro will remain at the club [uand is looking forward to next season with the Rhino[/u"[/i... and furthermore, why did you insist that Gotcha had to provide an actual quote from GH?


Constructing your straw men and knocking them down does not equate to anyone else making stuff up... apart from you of course. As for throwing insults around, did Donald Trump tell you to say that?




Which still begs the question as to why you demanded from Gotcha an actual quotation from the CEO?


[uTranslation[/u: The source and veracity of evidence which I demand from others (in this case Gotcha) does not apply to me.


No difference at all to anyone who is comfortable dealing with someone skilled in fabrication, smoke & mirrors and the darkest of arts. Unfortunately, on this occasion, the CEO has not covered himself in any glory. I expect none of this will have gone unnoticed down under and may play a significant role in future NRL players turning Leeds down, and who could blame them?


An apology to Gotcha seems in order.

Whenever you are ready?

I very much doubt that will be the case - the NRL would come down on them for that.

Plus the Sharks have just been stung by Barba - the NRL told the Sharks they could start paying him, but still didn't register his contract, so when Barba left for France because the NRL were dilly dallying too long, the Sharks had paid him 2 months wages already for no return, money straight down the pot - I doubt they'd make the same mistake again by paying an unregistered player, who's future is far from guaranteed at the club.

He came out two days after that Hetherington PR saying he doesn't not know where it had come from, as he made it clear in the meeting with Hetherington that he would not be returning.

I agree with you that we will never know the full truth. But what is clear is that what Hetherington said at the time about the meeting, he has changed to a degree this week. That puts him to task on it. Doesn't make his position any less worthy or right, but it does highlight his often spoken untruths.

Do you really think.that stops clubs getting up to stuff with regards player payments?



Not saying he'll be getting the kind of money he would if he properly signs but they'll be making sure he won't be buying Bargain Bob's Bargain Beans at the supermarket.

Have you got an actual quote from the Cronulla club to back up all this piffle of yours?



Thought not.