Not me. Until we have two fit halves on the field we will struggle and we haven't seen that yet. Things will get better before long, the question is how much? I think it was you who said Agar didn't want to be coach next year. Heard anymore?

No. Can't imagine he'll want everyone to turn on him though. Would ruin things for him at the club, and he will want to go back to his previous role unless he retires..!

He doesn’t deserve everyone to turn on him IMO, he may well not be the right man to coach long term (id hazard a guess he actually doesn’t think that) but he took over the role when we were at one of our lowest points and steadied the ship and got the team playing with a lot of desire which was lacking, he’s delivered a trophy and had a really bad injury crisis to deal with at the start of this year.

People are turning nasty Christopher. On here is probably the milder end of the spectrum. Britain is now built on having a scapegoat for eveything.....

He wont be going back to his previous role and he wont be retiring from the game either.

Yes Ive noticed this in life in general lately and it’s not pretty. Respect and empathy levels are at a real low and Social Media is largely to blame IMO, were in an age where people think it’s fine to be pretty nasty just because they’re hiding behind a computer.

He’s a very knowledgeable Rugby League guy who has had far too much stick from people with far less knowledge of the game throughout his career.

Interesting comment Marty, do you know what he will be doing ? Do you think a change of coach is likely?

We will have finished paying Furner at end of the season.

Ive no idea if a change is likely but I would be suprised if it was by the club. I dont think it would concern Agar too much if we decided to move on. He has higher paid offers (plural) elsewhere on the table for less pressure jobs. He is much more respected within the game than fans think. Maybe he would be the one to initiate a change but I dont think he will.

Leeds think hes a "bloody good coach" but the club and Agar both know he will never be fully accepted by the fans and every defeat will always see calls for his head but theyve known that from the start.

We need a win to raise morale but next 3 are tough games no doubt about it. 3 losses and pressure on the club will really be on.

I don’t think there is any pressure on Agar, he was only ever supposed to be a stop gap coach, if people are saying he is a well respected coach including the players he won’t be out of a job for long. You can only coach the players that are in front of you.
That suggests we are as a team a long way behind the four ball to where we should be. After 4 years of rebuilding we have one good quality half back, short of a class hooker, no number 13, and unfortunately a young but quality full back who has suffered the most horrendous injury. No wonder we have struggled this year and while we have 5/ 6 quality players in the team when they are fit we are still short of quality. Why would any quality coach come here unless they have their own recruitment policy, because unless we change our policy the next coach will be the same graveyard shift.

You get the best out of the players available to you regardless of results, I don’t see that being evident this last month at least. Will see if he’s the ability to do that in the next set of fixtures. One thing I really disliked was when he told the players to have a look at themselves publicly, no looking inward to the collective responsibility including himself and the coaching team.

Interesting stuff about him being in demand. As you say lose on Friday and with saints and cats away we will likely be looking at 2 wins from 10, season all but over except for staying up and giving the young players more game time. The late July/August fixture list looks a bit mad so we need some players back to compete through it.

Another year finishing in 8,9 10 will be very disappointing.

We could finish 8th this year and still take the title next. We have the core of a really good side developing.

All depends on the new signings... plus a little luck.

That level of optimism really is beyond absurd!

Ok but if we’d had a decent stand off this season I’m saying we would have won at least three more games. The main reason we are so low on the table is because of a savage injury toll.

I admire your optimism Jim but I can’t see that core of a really good side.

I agree, we probably would have competed more and picked up a few more points without the injuries.
But in reality we are way off the top 2.
We’re probably in that middle 6.
At the moment we’re at the bottom of it. Wouldn’t take too much to get us up to the top of it.
But major investment to really challenge the top 2 I think.

To be fair only Jimbo expected top 2 at start of the year. The fact hes now hoping for 8th has deflated us all im sure...
Lol.

Impossible to say where we'll be next year until we know who'll be at 6. Personally I'd stick with myler at FB but the club might see walker as best pick there; if so, no-one knows where he'll be form and fitness-wise. There are also questions to be answered at centre. There's no nailed on case that we'll be challenging in any shape or form. IMO of course.

Very much in two minds about Wane for next year. He’s certainly a tough cookie and lives and breathes the game. I used to be very impressed with Wigan’s structures but this has continued after Wane’s departure which suggests it’s more about the coaching team Wigan have in place as distinct from one individual. Overall, if we are able to invest in our teams obvious deficiencies, I would stick with Agar and his coaching team which is newish anyway and has been bedevilled with bad luck through injury since it’s formation. I think we all need to have faith with the Club and see how youth and new players galvanise as a team this year AND next……. Before making major changes with the coaching side. Let’s be honest…… when the core of your three quarters are injured and the teams spine has been decimated we have still run teams close. Things will improve at the Rhinos!

I'm going to quote that to my wife.

You'll be buying me a pint of humble pie when we lift the SL trophy this year big M!

Happily pal. What will you be buying me if we dont tho?

Well technically I can’t remember predicting we would finish on the top 2, and do remember saying I thought we were a solid mid table side in need of some more key signings. I’ve been pretty consistent in that.

I did think we could challenge this year with sone following wind but obvs with the injuries etc...

I’ve also repeatedly said that my expectations for this year were that we would build and have a real push for 2022, and I haven’t lost my pants when we got predictably dumped out of the CC and losing league games.

However if we finish outside the top 6 this year there is a curry and Stella night waiting for you with me and Gotcha in his Scarborough caravan park.

Where is Gotcha I've seen his name down viewing posts but it must be months since he last commented.