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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Correction needed here, That's why were STILL CHAMPIONS'"
The sub heading is Rhinos claim back-to-back Grand Finals, so they just about get away with it.
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Correction needed here, That's why were STILL CHAMPIONS'"
Were?
We still are.
Correction needed here
That's why we're STILL CHAMPIONS
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| Quote ="Terrace Casual"Were?
We still are.
Correction needed here
That's why we're STILL CHAMPIONS
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In fairness, it's a better attempt than the one in my text on Saturday night. Where indeed
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"Seems certain people never learn...
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They don't. This fella's a clever chap though. He's remained consistent.
Quote ="Terrace Casual"Gareth privately said to me that Mcclennan was getting the team playing the best rugby he had ever seen by a Leeds team. We both agreed it was too early to judge him because why should he be judged on a handful of games? why should any coach be judged on a handful of games (that goes for Dean Lance too)?
That is the point here. It doesnt matter which coach it was, Smith OR McClennan, the simple fact is that you lambasted Smith for the same things you didn't lambast McClennan. That's double standards and has been our agenda throughout.
The fact that you're scrabbling about falling over yourself in a bid to shift the focus to others only emphasizes it further.
McClennan has done fantastic job having the team peak at the right time twice in one season but that doesnt mean to say some of the performances inbetween were top drawer also. Far from it but that doesnt matter. What matters is the result come the end of the season which was our point throughout Smiths last season when yourself and a number of others bleated and moaned for Smith to go. Some of the posts were shameful and to try to twist and turn it onto others in a bid to save face is quite frankly, pathetic.'"
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| Quote ="avaggdu"Brian McLennan got the tactics spot-on tonight. But I have to say that the Rhinos consistently seemed to played with more passion under Tony Smith.
Leeds can beat [ianyone[/i when they play to their best, but when they don't it's woeful.
Brian Mclennan has the ability to motivate the Rhinos to be even better than they were under Tony Smith, and that will come with time, I'm sure.
The one advantage ol' Cone Head has over Donk (see the movies "Cone Heads" and "Crocodile Dundee" and disagree with my nicknames if you dare!) is that he actually publicly acknowledges the achievements of his team. Tony Smith always seemed to be (and I stress "seemed"icon_wink.gif to value the achievements of the opposing side over his own team.
Privately he may have been different (and apparently was) but to a fan, he wasn't sufficiently proud of his team. Maybe this is why he got so much from the Rhinos? They were constantly trying to play to their best to seek his public approval
Leeds are a relatively young squad, so don't laugh it off. It's the young guys who play out of their skin. like Lee Smith, who make the difference in a game. The old warhorses (and they're getting younger by the day) know what they're doing and don't need the kind of ranting that Anderson subjected Saints to at half time (wise decision? with a bunch of prima donnas? Maybe not, you decide), but one thing's for sure: Brian McLennan got the tactics spot-on tonight.
Even the ol' warhorse Keef benefited from being shifted over to the right for the first half. Haven't seen him play so well for ages; he teamed-up with Ryan Hall better than I've ever seen him gel with Scott Donald since the glory days of him having the oh-so-reliable Franny Cummings on the wing. Senior needs to be part of a partnership to shine. He makes other people look good and plays better because of it. When he hasn't the support, he becomes an old man who hasn't the speed he once had, and that's a waste of an international talent. I hope Ol' Cone Head moves him to the right more often.
Burrow and Maguire have been relatively quiet of late, but if anything tonight showed (Maguire's try has to be the try of the season in my opinion) is that they are a constant threat. Yes, you can stifle them, but you do so at the detriment of the rest of your defence, and that means one of the Rhinos other stars will just pick you apart. A kick from Sinfield, a tackle-busting run from Senior, an impossible offload from Lauititi, a quick darting run from Diskin...the options are endless.
And that is why Leeds are the best team in the world - they have so many options to hurt their opposition. Their only weakness is themselves; when they allow their opposition to impose their game upon them they become rigid and mediocre. Brian McLennan knows that the best way to combat Saints (as it was with the Bulls when they were good) is to play the game in their half; you let them get near your try-line at your peril.
Tony Smith got the best out of Leeds, Brian McLennan is doing the same for the majority of the time. If he can do the same next season and improve on it, Rhinos will be unbeatable. We only need fear mercurial performances from the likes of Warrington, Catalans, Hull (both) and Saints; the rest are just plodders.
It comes down to who wants it most, and when Rhinos want it most there's no stopping them. I believe Brian McLennan can motivate Leeds to do that every game, and we have the team who are professional enough to do what they need to do, and more with style.
I believe! Do you?'" YES
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| Although Jeff was showing the first signs of his dilution it still makes for a cracking read.
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| AP called it correctly last year. Bluey is indeed a top banana!
Those who are now claiming that they were on message all along, have been comprehensively shown up as opinionated know nowts.
Such is life, but I hope they stay with us, and I look forward to reading their amusing nonsense for a few more seasons yet.
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Although Jeff was showing the first signs of his dilution it still makes for a cracking read.'"
I agree, cracking read and very amusing.
He's back you know.
Oh, and....... Deary me!
Quote ="Agent Provocateur"Looks like Brian McClennan is the next Leeds coach then.
Typical Gary Hetherington acquisition of doing things on the cheap yet again.
He can't even secure a new coach with any NRL or even Super League experience FFS.
This latest cheapskating lack-of-ambition episode of the Rhinos management in this case is absolutely staggering because McClennan is nothing more than a Bartercard Reject on the RL club scene... pure and fecking simple.
A small-time coach for a small-time club... how predictably appropriate, eh?
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Quote ="Agent Provocateur"Nope.
It looks like Leeds are recruiting a coach with no NRL or SL experience whatsoever.
It looks like Leeds are recruiting a coach who has only coached New Zealand at international level which is a team full of players who are already well-coached at club level by other more astute club coaches from the NRL and SL anyway.
It looks like Leeds have recruited a coach lacking the experience and tactical nous required at club RL level.
It looks like Leeds are recruiting a coach whose claim to fame is to coach a NZ team to a Tri Nations win not through tactical or astute nous, but via the more emotional route.
It looks like Leeds are recruiting someone whose background in club coaching is that of a Bartercard Reject.
Oh wait....'"
Quote ="Agent Provocateur"Won just about everything on offer in the Bartercard Cup, eh?
PMSL
Good to see Leeds aiming high with the coaching recruitment drive this time around.'"
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| Quote ="tvoc"Gary Hetherington must be doing something right afterall.
Three Championships in five years (including a back to back) is unheard of territory for any sporting club from Leeds.
The only blot is Leeds' lack of recent success in the Challenge Cup.
I don't want to sound needy or ungrateful though.'" hey TVOC, what changed in the last 12 months?
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| Quote ="G1"David,
I've said all along I hope McLennan/McClennan/Bluey goes on to eclipse Smith. I desperately do.
I think the guy is great. really affable. That is why I think he's judged by different standards to his predecessor which is unfair.
Here's hoping that we win it next year......and MacLenon has proven to be our best ever.'" posted 12 monts ago by yours truly.
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| Quote ="G1"hey TVOC, what changed in the last 12 months?'"
Do I now sound needy?
The rest appears consistent.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Do I now sound needy?
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Quote ="Gotcha"Good luck getting out of that hole.
Unfortunately in your case you have a bigger one than Danny. You displayed your serious lack of knowledge of not only the game, but talent of players during the week.'"
This is funny. Really funny.
Especially considering that we never slated McClennan, we jsut wanted him treat the same way that Smith was (even though they were wrong about Smith). What's even funnier is when they did in fact treat McClennan the same as they had done Smith, they were wrong again.
viewtopic.php?t=405049
I sense a league table coming on and DISA, Bywater and Batley Rhino are right up there at the top
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Quote ="Gotcha"Good luck getting out of that hole.
Unfortunately in your case you have a bigger one than Danny. You displayed your serious lack of knowledge of not only the game, but talent of players during the week.'"
This is funny. Really funny.
Especially considering that we never slated McClennan, we jsut wanted him treat the same way that Smith was (even though they were wrong about Smith). What's even funnier is when they did in fact treat McClennan the same as they had done Smith, they were wrong again.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"
I sense a league table coming on and DISA, Bywater and Batley Rhino are right up there at the top
'" Oh there's some pearls of wisdom on there. I won't credit the authors (usual suspects) and spoil your fun if a league table is in the offing but I loved these belters.....
[iyou cannot be a top side and claim that Lee Smith is going to be one of your two starting centres simply because you failed to sign an adequate replacement
Buderus looks a pale imitation of the Aussie international and SOO player
For me some huge changes need making in the summer with the exodus of some well known and well loved faces at Headingley - the problem Leeds have is CEO whose love for the game overides his love for the club
i agree smith will never be a centre and for the life of me i cannot understand why we persist with makeshift centres.
agree about GH. it seems he is more interested in the game than leeds.
We lack real quality in the back line and we're a top player short in the 2nd row.. I feel like we've stood still and not moved forward and it's caught us out. GH has a history of doing this.
Webb doesn't look a patch on what he was, and as sad as it is to say having suffered a serious back injury, i doubt he will get it back either
Some people keep saying about the blip we had last year. But this is completely different. This is not a blip, we have not played well all season. The quality on offer is shocking, and way short of anything in the last 7 years.
The squad isn't good enough
as part of the reorganisation maybe a change of captain is required
Even if they were to win the 2009 GF this team needs breaking up [/i
Luckily, head highle tackle and a couple of others offered a modicum of sense.
Quote So we lose a couple of games and we need to dismantle the squad?
Pretty reactionary that IMO. '"
And really people, I mean really, you should heed whatever the flip I type because, quite frankly, without being falsely modest, I am the alpha male on this forum and know more than all of you. My pearls of wisdom, posted in April after Leeds had lost their first game to Salford in 30 years. Read and learn my inferiors.
Quote Eccleshill has suggested our CEO who in 13 years has delivered almost as many championship sides as the club earned in its' previous 100 years is "the problem" with the club.
He has also suggested taking the captaincy from Leeds most successful captain ever.
This after 3 defeats and 10/11 games into the League season.
Funnily enough after a similar number of games last year he was hailing the current coach (who he is now criticising) as Leeds greatest ever coach.
I'll make no judgment on Eccleshill's wild and reactionary mood swings but simply thought I'd point this out as some context for his thoughts. '"
Quote I have always said I hoped Mclennan would go on to eclipse Smith. I still hope he does. I still think he might. I have written anybody off this year. '"
Quote Nobody in the camp is panicking. There's no simple solution and no quick fix but everyone is confident over the course of a long season they can get back to where they need to be. The rest weekends during the CC will do them the power of good.'"
Quote In the lead up to the business end of the season we get two weekends off in August. Plenty of time to freshen up.'"
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| [iSerge A Storms: The problem is the lack of depth - JJB has been dire all year as has Burgess - who is McClennan going to select in front of of them?
This is a very thin squad - we do not have the youngsters coming through - McClennan had one alternative last night Watkins?
For a supposed big club that is a disgrace IMO[/i
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| I still think that the squad was weaker than it should have been this year, but it was mostly down to the Eastwood situation, and having our hands tied, by trying to get him here for 2010.
The squad is certainly stronger than this year for 2010, so I look forward to it.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"[iSerge A Storms: The problem is the lack of depth - JJB has been dire all year as has Burgess - who is McClennan going to select in front of of them?
This is a very thin squad - we do not have the youngsters coming through - McClennan had one alternative last night Watkins?
For a supposed big club that is a disgrace IMO[/i'"
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| I'm a little confused.
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| Quote ="rhinosgirl"I'm a little confused.
For someone who professed to be "less than 0.5 % interested in Stupor League" as he puts it - AP is doing an awful lot of posting which suggests quite the contrary'"
You learn quick girl, and no mistake.
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"You learn quick girl, and no mistake.'"
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| Quote ="rhinosgirl"I'm a little confused.
For someone who professed to be "less than 0.5 % interested in Stupor League" as he puts it - AP is doing an awful lot of posting which suggests quite the contrary'"
Not when you look at the dates of his postings.
Was doing would be more accurate.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Not when you look at the dates of his postings.
Was doing would be more accurate.'"
Cripes doesn't time fly! AP is certainly a name i remember from my previous outing on the forum
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