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| Agree Gotcha Singleton should be ahead of Ambler and IF we retain JP ,RB .Moore and Griffin i cant see Ambler staying not least becasue i think we will/should recall Amor plus Daniel Smith won't be far off a 1st team appearance imo.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Daniel Smith'"
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Can't see how. Saw Singleton in preseason, and just watched those highlights from the weekend, that kid looks so much like a James Graham. No matter what is age, or how many props we have, this lad is the one who should be top of the list in getting involved in first team games soon as.'"
Yeah, what does BMcD know, it's not as if he played prop for the then top club or anything.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"How big is that lad getting!!'"
He's a unit mind you all the youngsters seem to be of that ilk these days i got chance to speak to Stevie Ward after we'd played the Aussie team Harvey Howard brought over and close up he's another big lad.
I really think the club have some big calls coming up re-U20's forwards because imo we have some real potential pack monsters for the next decade or so.
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| I think/hope we're being pretty sensible in our prop policy, the dominating factor of which is ultimately the JP succession.
Assume, because of injuries and suspensions, you need a five-prop cohort to cover four spaces on matchdays, with all probably getting even time over the season. Then you need a couple more who are happy to be in reserve but will still see quite a bit of gametime.
This year we have 1.JP 2. Bailey 3.Griffin 4. Leuluai, with Moore as 5 and Kirke and Singleton as 6 and 7
2013, Kylie leaves, maybe Kirke leaves, Amor returns: 1.JP 2.Bailey 3.Griffin 4/5. Amor/Moore 6.Singleton 7.Smith
2014, the end of JP, cabs move up the rank: 1.Bailey 2.Griffin 3.Amor 4/5 Singleton/Moore 6.Smith 7. Next good prospect
2015 Smith moves up to replace Moore, and so on.
There's not much space for Ambler there unless we don't sign up Amor.
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lets hope this is true, would love to see Luke at Fax for at least this year! who knows after that. he seems keen too!
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... _1_4291879
DR's can work (for both parties), we brought on Jacob Fairbank last year, he was one of our top performers and now hes in the hudds squad (they do have injuries fair enough!) but if he gets his chance and plays well hell keep his position.
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lets hope this is true, would love to see Luke at Fax for at least this year! who knows after that. he seems keen too!
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... _1_4291879
DR's can work (for both parties), we brought on Jacob Fairbank last year, he was one of our top performers and now hes in the hudds squad (they do have injuries fair enough!) but if he gets his chance and plays well hell keep his position.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"I think/hope we're being pretty sensible in our prop policy, the dominating factor of which is ultimately the JP succession.
Assume, because of injuries and suspensions, you need a five-prop cohort to cover four spaces on matchdays, with all probably getting even time over the season. Then you need a couple more who are happy to be in reserve but will still see quite a bit of gametime.
This year we have 1.JP 2. Bailey 3.Griffin 4. Leuluai, with Moore as 5 and Kirke and Singleton as 6 and 7
2013, Kylie leaves, maybe Kirke leaves, Amor returns: 1.JP 2.Bailey 3.Griffin 4/5. Amor/Moore 6.Singleton 7.Smith
2014, the end of JP, cabs move up the rank: 1.Bailey 2.Griffin 3.Amor 4/5 Singleton/Moore 6.Smith 7. Next good prospect
2015 Smith moves up to replace Moore, and so on.
There's not much space for Ambler there unless we don't sign up Amor.'"
I'd hope we're not planning on keeping Moore until 2014 to be honest. This is hypothetically great, but there is no promises as to wether Singleton or Smith will live up to potential, I can definitely see us signing a prop to replace Peacock when he retires.
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| I'm not saying Ambler will be better than Singleton etc. I'm just saying there have been young big forwards we've let go who have gone on to be decent props - Fozzard, Anderson, Moore himself spring to mind.
As it stands I think the main danger we face down the road is having a logjam of average forwards around.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I'm not saying Ambler will be better than Singleton etc. I'm just saying there have been young big forwards we've let go who have gone on to be decent props - Fozzard, Anderson, Moore himself spring to mind.
As it stands I think the main danger we face down the road is having a logjam of average forwards around.'"
Your last sentence is too true. Which is exactly why you don't mess about holding back youngsters who look the part. You give them the opportunity. If they don't make the grade then, then they take a step back and you replace. But give it a go.
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| I watched the U20s on the Leed site (BTW the quality is really poor, or it could be my eyesight but I thought all the Chemics lads had mullets - but now I THINK they have some kind of mark on the back of their shirts) and was impressed by the highlights TBH. I thought Leeds looked big and fast across the field. I couldn't really tell who was who apart from when they scored, although Ward stood out a bit.
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Quote ="craigizzard"2013, Kylie leaves, maybe Kirke leaves, Amor returns: 1.JP 2.Bailey 3.Griffin 4/5. Amor/Moore 6.Singleton 7.Smith'"
A thoughtful post - apart from the 'maybe Kirke leaves' which seems fairly unlikely to me given his recent contract extension, versatility and seeming preparedness to accept a squad/back-up role.
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Quote ="craigizzard"2013, Kylie leaves, maybe Kirke leaves, Amor returns: 1.JP 2.Bailey 3.Griffin 4/5. Amor/Moore 6.Singleton 7.Smith'"
A thoughtful post - apart from the 'maybe Kirke leaves' which seems fairly unlikely to me given his recent contract extension, versatility and seeming preparedness to accept a squad/back-up role.
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Quote ="tvoc"A thoughtful post - apart from the 'maybe Kirke leaves' which seems fairly unlikely to me given his recent contract extension, versatility and seeming preparedness to accept a squad/back-up role.
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Sadly true.
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Sadly true.
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| Was at the shay tonight and thought Luke had a good game, made good yards, plenty of carries and looked up for it, one knock on from what I can remember.
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| Do we think he will make it?
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| Hard to say i thought he did well at Fax last night and at times he looked decent when given a run but for me i'd take Singleton AND Amor before him.
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| Yep looks like we've seen the alst of Ambler i just hope the re-signing of Kylie and JP doesn't cost us D.Smith and Singleton.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Yep looks like we've seen the alst of Ambler i just hope the re-signing of Kylie and JP doesn't cost us D.Smith and Singleton.'"
The initial signings of our other over 30's props (Griff/Moore) won't help their chances either.
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| Depressing. Amor will be the next to go for good.
So much was GH's proclamation.
Singleton and D.Smith won't be far behind.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Depressing. Amor will be the next to go for good.
So much was GH's proclamation.
Singleton and D.Smith won't be far behind.'"
lets remember GH signed Amor and Amber and put them at the coaches disposal. If the coach had been selecting them, they would have still been here. This coach and the last, for whatever reasons, would not select them ahead of the incumbent so they have moved on, on loan for the time being.
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| Luke has been very impressive and has in virtually every game shown his class and really I think is way too good for Championship rugby. But if Leeds think he is not good enough then thats OK and I am sure Luke will be happy enough to play for his hometown club. Sam Barlow is another Halifax lad that has had Hull KR amongst other SL clubs chasing him and has said "No". Its good for the championship clubs to see some SL quality players playing at that level and there are no real easy games as can be seen by the tightness of the championship bar York and Hunslet.
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| Quote ="G1"lets remember GH signed Amor and Amber and put them at the coaches disposal. If the coach had been selecting them, they would have still been here. This coach and the last, for whatever reasons, would not select them ahead of the incumbent so they have moved on, on loan for the time being.'"
Maybe I am just having a bad day at the office but I feel nowt but doom n gloom at t' moment with recent and ongoing events.
I would hope the club might now be showing signs of valuing the likes
of Amor/ Singleton/ D.Smith above the likes of Kirke/Moore/Lleulai and yes even Peacock.
The future is surely more important than continuing to support crumbling and/or average-at-best, antique incumbents (despite their past achievements) ?
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| I think in Luke's case the club has made the right decision. I saw him on Sunday as Halifax played Keighley Cougars and he did not stand out. Similarly saw Singleton for Dewesbury and he was impressive.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"I think in Luke's case the club has made the right decision. I saw him on Sunday as Halifax played Keighley Cougars and he did not stand out. Similarly saw Singleton for Dewesbury and he was impressive.'"
I saw quite a bit of Ambler at London last year and he didn't look anything above average. Amor, by all accounts, is already a very good SL prop.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"I saw quite a bit of Ambler at London last year and he didn't look anything above average.'"
A step forward then............
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