Trolling aside

I think you miss Ellis big-time - in a way I didn't think a second-rower could be missed...

It was a better performance but hulls defence was sheeite.

With better defence they could have stifled us and forced some errors creating a closer game and people would be on here saying leeds were poor blah blah.

Some really soft tries conceded from hull tonight.

Is that us turned the corner need to back it up with a victory in Perpignan not a easy place to go.

It was by no means fantastic but i thought we looked really sharp and played at a pace we are used to seeing.
What i don't get is whenever we have played well in spells it's been the other team that's poor


We had this against catalans(both games),wigan and the giants match aswell.
Whilst i admit theres plenty of improvement in us give the lads some credit maybe these teams weren't that good because we didn't allow them to be,maybe we played at a pace and got a momentum they couldn't stop.

The giving away of penalties is still a major concern. Another count lost again tonight and comfortably so at 7-11. A better team than Hull will punish such indiscipline somewhere down the line.

That aside the errors were down tonight at 5 knock ons, 1 forward pass, 1 intercept pass, 1 kick out on the full. A big improvement on the last few games.

TBF though any penalty count when M.Allibert is reffing should be classed as null and void as soon as the FT hooter goes



I thought a few were harsh to say the least and when do I ever come on here and say that?



Bailey's springs to mind.

Are you kidding.

a solid display,although hull were awful.we played at a good pace which was good,peacock was immense as were all the forwards bar bailey who was dire. he passed the ball rather than take it up on more than a few occasions.defence was ok but going forward he was gutless

Was it me or was Donald 'bottling it' at every possible opportunity ?

It's been the story of his season so far.

He doesn't physically have the build or technique to break a tackle, and his confidence looks completely shot.

In fairness to the guy, anytime he has actually received a pass when in an attacking move, he's usually been inches away from the touchline and has had to check back inside.

Maybe a season too far in Leed's colours

Given Hall's development this season is there now not a case for swopping the wingers again?

Donald showed last season he is a quality player the swop of sides should give him the confidence he desperately needs.

You know I have been quite critical of the side this season, but you have gone beyond me.

Earlier in season we were winning games, which IMO the oppossition was much worse than Hull last night.

I thought last night was a terrific performance, were the scoreline actually flattered Hull.

You are correct on the Buderus/Diskin situation. It did not work the last time we tried it with Millard and Diskin, and it does not look right this time. IMO Diskin should not be in the squad.

I dissagree on McGuire, who was simply outstanding last night. Best performance he has put in in last couple of seasons for me. And for me it is simply that both him and Burrow play better when they are not together. I have said that for years, despite winning 3 titles with those halfbacks.

I am a critic of Donald this season, but thought the combination of him and Smith looked superb. Smith is once again proving that you can play the lad anywhere and he will excell. New position, been out for weeks, but put in a top effort.

But like you, I still think we need another forward to see help us regain that title. I was certainly dissapointed in the amount of miss tackles from Kirke last night.

Worries me too. Most seem needless for infringements at the PTB as well which is easily solved.

I would like to see that quantified.

Because from what I saw, the majority of the penalties I thought we conceeded were for offside.

That been the case, and I repeat what I have put most times this season, it is completely open to refs interpretation, which is near always inconsistent.

Who wouldn't miss a player of Ellis' quality? With HKR and Saints to visit Headingley and recovery time on Challenge Cup weekends a top two finish seems highly probable.

I can think of three separate incidents off the top of my head for stuff that happens after initial contact has been made.

Maybe its just because of the way I react to them, rather than offside which you kind of accept will happen once or twice in a game.

There were at least two for unnecessary high shots (Burgess (again) and Diskin. Two were for stripping the ball 2 on 1, One was for obstruction (Senior). That leaves 6 for other offences, I seem to remember 2 fot offside.

Like Leicester said, that maybe he reacted more to the play the ball because it annoys him. Maybe I reacted more to the offside decisions, because I felt he was only pulling that on one side.

That said, I still think the offside been pulled for was more than you said.

I think if little Rob had been on the pitch we would had 70 IMO

But credit to sinfield who had a cracker!!

I remember Diskin in the first half in Hulls "22" on a 1st tackle and someone in the second half, on our line where M Alibert gave the penalty right in front of the posts. They stood out because of the importance of their position and timing. Not as bad as Hull giving away 2 penalties for interference on the last tackle though

wtf

next game he'll probably score a hatrick and you'll be ing over him.

Agree completly with you on both points there. Kirke misses too many tackles for me. We look a better pack when Ali's on the park. Our attack looks so much better and he gives us a bit more go forward. Our back row needs improving but HQ know that - hence the move for Eastwood.

Talking of that, i watched the game again last night and you should have heard Phil Clarke let out a huge groan of disapointment when Hull did that. He seemed to be so annoyed and disapointed that Hull had done that as if he was supporting Hull. I couldn't believe what i'd just heard.

This season Clarke's hatred of Leeds has really sored to new hights.

What last night proved to me is that you cannot play with three half backs and maintain fluidity.

I have stated before this side now needs breaking up - part of that would be one of Sinfield/Burrow/McGuire going.

McGuire was outstanding last night as was Webb and these two really gave the attack some buzz - my MOM by some distance was Ali - if he can play like this for the rest of the season we could even finish top.