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| Quote ="Dettoriman"100%
Nobody wants to see a player badly injured, but every RL fan wants to see your players KO someone, Just not cause serious injury
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You were correct in your first para, but way off the mark in the one I've highlighted - it may be a primary reason for you to watch RL matches but I think you are in a small minority if you only go to watch one or more players be knocked unconscious.
And its not possible to cause a loss of consciousness without causing serious injury - the very act of losing consciousness is a serious injury in itself regardless of how quickly the victim recovers.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"100%
There was nothing illegal in the tackle, Yes it was reckless, But it was within the laws of the game, And there will be no punishment to the player
As for the chants, There was nothing wrong AT ALL. Some fans need to get a grip, Its the first thing Cas had to cheer all night, And every single fan who chanted light heartedly while Luke was treated to, Applauded him off, And i know, As i checked that they did
Nobody wants to see a player badly injured, but every RL fan wants to see your players KO someone, Just not cause serious injury
Looks like he is a mess, and wont play at Wembley, Which is a massive shame, But he will come back bigger and better, And count this as one of those RL injuries,
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You tool.
You condone what was in your words a reckless tackle which has caused serious injury.
You condone a set of morons chanting anti Leeds songs etc, while a player was down obviously seriously injured.
You think every fan wants to see opposing players knocked out.
I'm 100% sure this is not the case, I'd never wish for any player to be knocked out or badly injured in any way and I'm sure there are lots of other fans who agree.
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| Quote ="Andy R"You tool.
You condone what was in your words a reckless tackle which has caused serious injury.
You condone a set of morons chanting anti Leeds songs etc, while a player was down obviously seriously injured.
You think every fan wants to see opposing players knocked out.
I'm 100% sure this is not the case, I'd never wish for any player to be knocked out or badly injured in any way and I'm sure there are lots of other fans who agree.'"
Ok, KO was the wrong word. Rugby League is a mans sport, Every RL fan i know loves the big shots, And all the players do too, The reckless thing was, He didnt try wrapping his arms round him, To in effect make a "tackle", but he played within the laws of the game, And thats all the players can do
As for the chants, I didnt hear many anti Leeds ones, Just lots supporting Jonny Walker, Who i am sure, After a minute or so after the shot, Was feeling pretty bad for himself
Call me a tool, I dont care. I enjoyed the shot. The massive shame, Is it caused a player a serious injury. But we have had our share of bad moments in the last couple of seasons, So we know its not a nice feeling to be in. Luke will be alright, Take it on the chin (no pun intended) and get on with his career
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| Walker came off worse in the initial shoulder impact but the clash of heads did the damage. If it weren't for the head clash Walker would have looked daft.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Ok, KO was the wrong word. Rugby League is a mans sport, Every RL fan i know loves the big shots, And all the players do too, The reckless thing was, He didnt try wrapping his arms round him, To in effect make a "tackle", but he played within the laws of the game, And thats all the players can do
As for the chants, I didnt hear many anti Leeds ones, Just lots supporting Jonny Walker, Who i am sure, After a minute or so after the shot, Was feeling pretty bad for himself
Call me a tool, I dont care. I enjoyed the shot. The massive shame, Is it caused a player a serious injury. But we have had our share of bad moments in the last couple of seasons, So we know its not a nice feeling to be in. Luke will be alright, Take it on the chin (no pun intended) and get on with his career'"
Surely the players should try and not be reckless whether in the laws of the game or not?
I enjoy a big hit as much as anyone - but never one that looks like it might have caused a serious injury.
I wasn't there so am only commenting on what I have heard reported about the chanting(and what came through the Sky microphones) but as some Cas fans are unhappy with it too, I would suggest you have maybe got this one wrong.
When did you enjoy it?
When it happened? While he was having his treatment, spitting blood and having a neck brace fitted? Or now, in the clear light of day looking back on it?
I'd say within about 10 seconds it was clear it was fairly serious. Any enjoyment of it and future enjoyment should have stopped at that point.
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| Quote ="Lupset_Airport"Walker came off worse in the initial shoulder impact but the clash of heads did the damage. If it weren't for the head clash Walker would have looked daft.'"
He did look daft, bouncing around like he'd scored the winning try in a Cup Final when a player he'd just tackled lay seriously injured on the floor.
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| Jaw broke in 2 places. Operation on it today.
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| Anyone who has played the game knows what was going on in those last 10 minutes
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| How's Peacock?
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| Quote ="Wire_74"How's Peacock?'"
Kock to the knee.Scan on Moday.
The player and the club think it will be ok.
I suspect he'll be rested next week and back for Wembley
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| why was it a reckless tackle? it was an accidental clash of heads.
i'm sure the cas lad didn't know it was bad when he jumped about.
watch leeds and we do the same, people rushing in to congratulate the player on getting a knock on.
nothing nasty in it whatsoever and the cas fans gave him a great round of applause as he went off.
some of you need to get that chip off your shoulder
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| As I posted on Hulls forum,it shows what players are prepared to go through each week.They deserve fans respect.
Hope he recovers quickly.
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| I'd say it was poor tackling technique looking for a big hit due to the fact his side had been outplayed and had become increasingly niggly in 5 mins before the incident. I in no way think he went to maliciously hurt Burgess but there certainly wasnt much of an attempt to complete a tackle.
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| Nando's will certainly miss him. It'll be a while before he's chomping on chicken wings again
Seems upbeat on Twitter. Excellent self diagnosis of the injury "..to put it simply, my jaw is f*cked!"
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| The cas lad's technique wasn't great but nothing more than that. Nothing to get too excited about. Hope Luke recovers quickly. Shame for the lad.
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| I don't think a lot of the chanting that takes place during an injury stoppage is intended to be malicious, more a way of restoring normality during what could be a potentially serious event. If it was malicious, it would be targetted at the injured player - which I can't recall having heard at an RL game.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Hope Lukes ok.
Very sloppy technique from Walker, I really hope Lukes ok, even if he doesn't make the final his well being should be paramount.
By far my favourite prop in Super League- He'll be coming to Wakie when I win the Euro Millions!!!!
(In my opinion that was a dangerous challenge)'"
Having watched the replay a couple of times, a purely accidental clash, no malice and Walker could have done himself some seroius injury, as for Burgess, a shame he will miss the CC final, but RL is a hard game played by hard and brave men. Good luke with the Recovery Luke....
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Hope he recovers quickly and the damage is minimal.
No intent just 2 props going at it and the collision went wrong.'"
Well said rhinoms, 2 props colliding, could have gone the other way and walker getting smashed.
I wish luke burgess a speedy recovery.
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| I dont wish bad on anybody Rhinos player or not and wish Biffa the speediest of recoveries, however I dont think he should be in our strongest 17 so i dont consider it to be a big blow, for me his ball retention is not good enough and I think Ambler is a better player based on this season. I am more concerned on how peacock is.
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| It was a big collision. Nothing malicious and no intent. It may have been a little silly on the part of Walker but maybe some inexperience there. The thing i didnt like was when it was clear Burgess was hurt a couple of the Cas players including Walker were dancing like they had just won the match. That was very disrespectful to Luke Burgess and seemed to show little concern for him.
Get well soon Biffa!!!
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| Looking at the contact only, without taking into account the injury it was a good hit, and one which is entertaining for the fans. I have no problem with shoulder charges having given a few out and received a few more. They can be very good to lift a team, force a mistake or intimidate your opposition. Some players do them more than others SBW being one of the main, but they present a big risk to both the tackler and the tackled player.
Also, I have no problem with Walker bouncing after the hit, he made a good effective tackle and forced a knock on. We do exactly the same, and there is no way he could have known straight away that Burgess was badly injured.
As for the injury, its a nasty looking one, and a shame for the lad to miss the final. Hopefully he'll get to play in a few more in his career
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| Get well soon Luke. Nasty one.
As for the "Do it to Senior" chant, the only thing I can say is this one was an accident
Keith Senior breaking BJMs jaw in the Sheffield V Cas challenge cup match was deliberate!
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