doesn't make a lot of errors kirke. limited ability but pretty error free

Nah, i'd go with Kirke, far more reliable.

I expect (and hope) that tonight will really see the kind of intensity you only get from finals rugby, and in that case the error count could be really crucial. That's likely to be in TS' thinking. 2 or 3 dropped balls in your own territory could cost you the game in this kind of match.

My argument would be Kirke or Ablett with Kirke just getting the nod as he is more steady and reliable. Ablett is more of a game breaker than Kirke, but we have enough in the squad so Kirke for me is a better option.

Why do you guys keep trying with Lauititi he is injury prone and in a big game if he gets injured sub down

why do we persist with burrow - short and liable to get the odd head shot. He gets knocked out and we're a sub down!

Clever selection from devious tactician supreme Tony Smith.

Because when his mind is on the job and he's close to 100% fit he's an absolutely class act and can win games for us.

I've got a feeling this will be a special night for Ali. Hopefully coming back to peak fitness at just the right time in the season. We know he's capable of something special.

Some more wailing and gnashing of teeth here when Thackray was omitted from the Leeds squad for the Saints playoff game.

The Joker 9how apt) calling his omission a "shambles".

Pure comedy gold

Good old Damo... he's never lost it

At least I have always had a clue

Not always been Ryan's biggest supporter then?

If only you had known back then he'd go on to add two more winner's rings to his collection.

There's a certain irony when pulling up an ancient thread to highlight other poster's views on a member of the playing staff you highlight your own condemnation especially as you claim to be 'swimming against a tide of fekkwittedry.'

Touche

KAPOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!













Oh the irony!! Not been a good week for Southstanders very own seaker of truth and justice!!

I could've easily left alone this thread but it highlights that I calls it as I sees it and I have no favourites.

"this year" being the key phrase. Bailey's form, like any other player, will vary.

I steadfastly supported Donald in 2006 but have been happy to offer reasoned criticism of him this year.

Compare and contrast with other posters who love certain players and let that cloud their appraisal and who "hate" others and do likewise.

Shall we look at some of your little gems on the threads that've been dredged up eh genius?

So in other words you are no different to the posters you are slaggin off when posting today on this thread?

Putting the Smith issue aside, you were trying to poke fun at posters who questioned why Thackray was dropped for Leeds and praising his performances at that time. You did this in relation to what he has become.

On the other hand, you critisize Bailey in same thread, and now make out you know the error of your ways.

In truth you commented on Bailey at the time probably correctly, and lets be honest, it was just a particular period. Which of course is no different to the people saying Thackray should not be dropped, at a period in time when he was one of the better players.

Your efforts to poke fun and spectacularly exploded in your face.

Unfortunately Tony Smith didn't share your view or was he wrong to select Bailey for the Final Eliminator (Leeds 36 Wigan 6) and the Grand Final (Leeds 33 St Helens 6) ?

My comments were rational reasoned appraisals. I didn't stick the knife in and make the kind of knee jerk, reactionary comments some did.

When Smith selected Bailey against my opinion did I say something silly about him like, erm, "The sooner Smith is away from this club the better."?

No he was right. Which is why I had such faith in him at the time. he was in a far better position to make assessments on who should and shouldn't play.

A lesson some on here would do well to heed.

Hansom lad young Bobbie – wonder what he’s up to these days – probably coaching in some unknown country.

Was that photo taken morning after he left his stud marks over Dougie`s car?