When i see the the Donald & Hull KR try I instantly think to myself would Ryan Halls try at the Grand Final being given if that had happened on Friday night?

Er, the ball did change direction. I think you need to watch it again.

Top teams getting all the decisions????? PMSL.

It made me laugh on Friday the way Stevo was arguing that it should have been given, but could not come up with a reason why, other than that at normal speed it looked a try.

Well at normal speed it didn't even look like he grounded it to me.

Actually, Stevo gave a very good reason to award the try. The knock on was an optical illusion apparantly.

Maybe there was a large gust of wind at the exact time that websters other hand went near the ball

It's as clear as day that Websters left hand hit the ball to the ground first

Please tell me about some of these decisions that all the top teams are getting? Wigan? Warrington? the penalty count against Leeds on friday?

In all fairness, he did say top teams

For those who are bagging Hall:

Apps: 3
Tries: 2
Carries: 41 (13/game)
Meters: 452 (151/game)
Tackle busts: 11 (3.66/game)
Clean Breaks: 4 (1.33/game)
Offloads: 2

Tackles: 18
Missed: 3
% made: 85.7

Errors: 6 (2/game)

Yes the errors are high but didnt he make 3 of them on Friday? Also the main 1 he dropped was a high bomb into a crowded area which I have seen top wingers drop.

On the Donald 'no try' he dipped his left shoulder and turned his body in. It was a classic natural reaction that a left winger might do to avoid the touchline/corner post/in goal touchline when diving to cross the try line.

Whether that affected the missed opportunity is another matter.

Whilst undertaking important research to stake a claim to coining TMFMISL phrase I came upon this thread. It's from the start of last year and it makes for interesting reading given certain posters expressed opinions on Ryan Hall.

Given the season he went on to have I wonder if posters such as LS16rhino, TVOC and broken time bandit still hold the same opinion of Hall?

I can't speak for the others but my opinion re Hall has developed just as he has as a player.

The first outside back's name pencilled in on the team-sheet now. Well done Ryan.

Is it any coincidence though that the comments made initially were at Hull KR last year? Personally I thought Hall put us under a lot of pressure on Friday by been too cumbersome and slow getting back for kicks this week, and I notice similar comments made by posters for the same fixture last year.

Hall can make mistakes sometimes but who doesn't?

To be fair the kicks were coming sometimes 3-4 tackle, you cant drop both wingers back every third tackle that would be suicide.

Good reading and play by Dobson & Murrell IMO.

If anyone put us under pressure on friday personally I thought it was Smith.

yes, but the comments weren't restricted to Hall's specific performance, rather his abilities or potential to make it as 1 1st choice player at Leeds or in SL in general.

Hey I'll hold my hands up - I thought Hall would take longer to mature than he has, I was wrong.

hall has really developed well.lets hope the other youngsters do the same

The caveat is even simpler.

What SL side wouldn't Hall get in?

Crusaders but only because hes [uNOT[/u an Aussie

I'll hold my hands up and say Hall has become better in 2 years than I thought he would ever become when he first broke onto the scene. Bringing on youngsters of that quality is vital in order to win things in these salary capped times.

I originally thought his apparent lack of pace would stop him becoming a high quality winger: I was wrong.

Is there still not a case for him now swapping wings with Donald on a more permanent basis ? (the new Alan Smith and John Atkinson). I still think Donald is better on the left.

The more knowledgeable posters saw his undoubted potential and refrained from slagging the lad off.

Like this contribution from earlier this season, after Hall had already proved any of his previous doubters wrong:

The same knowledgeable posters who thought Brent Webb was a New Zealander?

I know I know the answer. Visited his home town when living in Townsville (just down the road tha knows)...where I had the pleasure of watching the great Mr Thurston and Mr Bowen etc on a regular basis.

Who funnily enough - as a similarly exciting FB - was born in the same town.