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| Quote ="rpw"Surely though the dreadful weather of Saturday (plus it was on the box) put a lot of people off coupled with it not being on a Friday..'"
Don't forget holidays.
There are always reasons but Warrington was an attractive looking fixture going in. What would the crowd have been if it were a Celtic, Salford or Harlequins visiting? Shudder.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"I was in the middle of doing a "Late, Late Edit" of that post when something more important sprung up, real work.'"
I thought this was your 'real work' these days.
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| A lot of rhetorick and no specirfics there Mr Field.
Gilderdale came up with a viable alternative suggestion that would not alienate the clubs core customer base and its' most important incoem stream, season ticket holders.
I'd guess most clubs (with a few exceptions) are suffering a decline in attendances in the current ecomnomic climate.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Don't forget holidays.
There are always reasons but Warrington was an attractive looking fixture going in. What would the crowd have been if it were a Celtic, Salford or Harlequins visiting? Shudder.'"
Yeah, could have seen a record low since the dean bell days.. i wonder if there's any truth in some people saying like the cup, supporters hold back slightly until the playoffs/finals near... wrong i know, but success can breed contempt..
I blame the recession more than anything personally which leads to supporters being more picky about their games i'e fair weather and not on sky etc
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| Quote ="G1"A lot of rhetorick and no specirfics there Mr Field.
Gilderdale came up with a viable alternative suggestion that would not alienate the clubs core customer base and its' most important incoem stream, season ticket holders.
I'd guess most clubs (with a few exceptions) are suffering a decline in attendances in the current ecomnomic climate.'"
Like I said, they're painted into a corner, any reduction at the turnstiles for the last few games of the season would immediately impact on those who bought season tickets, what was the "saving" this season, two games ?
Reducing walk-up prices is the only real incentive to the "floating voters" but that has to be done as a whole-season plan, there's certainly a very valid argument now for charging (say) £17 for the Western Terrace as a standard, not as an offer, you get covered seating for that at Wigan.
There always has been a "half season" ticket in previous years, don't recall the advertising for it this year though, it offered a one game discount, unfortunatley it covered the august summer holiday period where one game is easily lost.
So I'll go back to my family ticket idea - a family of two adults and two u16's for £40, under cover in the paddock (s) or the Carnegie standing terrace - sell 250 of those and you instantly up the attendance by 1000 - and you spend inside the ground will appreciate by another £40 per family if my experiences were anything to go by - they are a fantastic target to aim at and nothing on the club web site suggests that they do anythign about it - unfortunately they've missed the best way to market to this group until the schools return in September but they are the group I'd target via the EP right now, this week.
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| Once the ground has more seating (with a new Southstand) they're going to have to work harder to sell that seating.
Also, when considering marketing you have to think of your brand image.
They want the Rhinos match day to be exciting, vibrant, youthful and trendy.
You, Gilderdale and Batley Rhino just don't fit the demographic i am afraid. Me and El Barbudo really rock the North Stand.
Perhaps you'd find a better fit at Post Office road with the Pensioner?
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| Quote ="tvoc"
Leeds' average home SL Regular Round attendance this season is 15,284
Saturday did represent a worrying season low though.'"
I got it as 15285. Its still down 1800 on last years average though
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| I wonder what the club's break-even point is?
Despite attendances being lower (due in my view to 2 things, the recession and, specifically on Saturday, the weather) the club may still be reaqltively satisfied.
Imagine how they'd feel though if they were Bradford whose attendances are now lower than Cas or the Dragons. (On the basis of last week's game at least.)
However, I do think that there is merit in looking at the Family ticket but the Club would say kids can come for an entire season for a very small amount, can't recall what it is. Still something that most places now do so worth pursuing.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"
So I'll go back to my family ticket idea - a family of two adults and two u16's for £40, under cover in the paddock (s) or the Carnegie standing terrace - sell 250 of those and you instantly up the attendance by 1000 - and you spend inside the ground will appreciate by another £40 per family if my experiences were anything to go by - they are a fantastic target to aim at and nothing on the club web site suggests that they do anythign about it - unfortunately they've missed the best way to market to this group until the schools return in September but they are the group I'd target via the EP right now, this week.'"
An thereby alienating all the people who attend who don't have children. Why should they "subsidise" those with families?
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| Quote ="Paxo"An thereby alienating all the people who attend who don't have children. Why should they "subsidise" those with families?'"
Why should you "subsidise" them on public transport, cinemas, theme parks, museums, swimming pools, etc etc etc
Why should you subsidise pensioners and students in the same and many other places.
Why should you pay pensioners and students not to work, why should you subsidise sick people to be healed on the NHS, why should you subsidise road building if you don't drive, why should you pay for an army when you don't like Afghanistan as a holiday destination anyway ?
In fact, why shouldn't you just keep all your money and not pay any taxes at all ?
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| Quote ="G1"
You, Gilderdale and Batley Rhino just don't fit the demographic i am afraid. Me and El Barbudo really rock the North Stand.
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The only time you rock the North Stand is when you sit down.
If they design the new stand and its seating arrangements based on the width of your [iars[/ie it'd hold a couple of hundred people, tops.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"The only time you rock the North Stand is when you sit down.
If they design the new stand and its seating arrangements based on the width of your [iars[/ie it'd hold a couple of hundred people, tops.'"
Mee Yow.
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| Quote ="Paxo"An thereby alienating all the people who attend who don't have children. Why should they "subsidise" those with families?'"
It's not a case of subsidising them though, it'sabout increasing bums on seats, it happens everywhere. Ryanair do it very well. Cinemas do it, all sorts of tourist attractions do it, ferry companies do it. Most of the costs are fixed costs and therefore each additional seat filled is margin to the company.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"The only time you rock the North Stand is when you sit down.
'" i was going to say there was no need to insult El Barbudo in such a manner then I read....
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If they design the new stand and its seating arrangements based on the width of your [iars[/ie it'd hold a couple of hundred people, tops.'" ...and realised you meant me.
You cut me deep sir. My personal trainer has managed to rid me of in excess of 1 stone as well as several hundreds of pounds. Sure, there's more to go at but your comments have hurt me so much I thin kI cream cake is the only way to restore my self esteem.
Furthermore, your insult is a breach of the AUP and I'd ask you to ban yourself for at least 7 days.
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| Quote ="G1"
Furthermore, your insult is a breach of the AUP and I'd ask you to ban yourself for at least 7 days.'"
I can't ban myself, but I shall ask that Wheels person to do it for me.
Now that reminds me, I banned two people over the weekend for 48 hours, what were their names again, they'll need unbanning now...
...where did I leave my glasses, why did I come upstairs ?
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| Quote ="G1"i was going to say there was no need to insult El Barbudo in such a manner then I read....
...and realised you meant me.
You cut me deep sir. My personal trainer has managed to rid me of in excess of 1 stone as well as several hundreds of pounds. Sure, there's more to go at but your comments have hurt me so much I thin kI cream cake is the only way to restore my self esteem.
Furthermore, your insult is a breach of the AUP and I'd ask you to ban yourself for at least 7 days.'"
I do hope his words haven't retarded you in your quest to find that 'beach bod' old man.
Youuu can do eeeeeeeet!
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| Quote ="Wheels"I do hope his words haven't retarded you in your quest to find that 'beach bod' old man.
Youuu can do eeeeeeeet!'" I have actually started to unearth the form on an ab or two underneath my protruding gut.
Sometimes, on a night, I stand naked in front of the mirror.
That previous sentence has nothing to do with my weight loss, exercise regime or anything in particular.
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| McLaren_Field will be taking a break from posting on these boards for 48 hours.
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| Oh buggah
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| Quote ="Wheels"McLaren_Field will be taking a break from posting on these boards for 48 hours.'"
Shame, I was quite enjoying reading that.
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| As I have previously mentioned, the manner in which I process information involves creating a mental image before committing any information to memory.
Quote ="G1"Sometimes, on a night, I stand naked in front of the mirror.'"
Not feeling very well now…
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I got it as 15285. Its still down 1800 on last years average though'"
15,284 whole people. I don't round parts of a person. Don't know why, I just don't.
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| I'd have been there had it not been switched - alas my mother-in-law's 70th ruled out Saturday for me. She's from Wigan too. Mind, the wife was born in Hull ......
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| Seems like theres some good ideas on here, people should be emailing/writing to Mr Hetherington to express their concerns and give some ideas.
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| Quote ="tvoc"... I don't round parts of a person. Don't know why, I just don't.'"
Are we back to discussing Gareth's anatomy now?
I can't keep track sometimes.
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