Cant blame McDermott. Hes not here anymore. There will collective blame if we go down and it will be a collective effort to stay up.

Let's back the team to stay up and put effort in as fans to support the team to help the team.

The South Stand, other than the last 10 mins was very quiet versus Hull and need to raise their game just like the team and management need to.

I'm still of the belief, maybe in denial, we wont go down but it's a big 6 games remaining.

For me GH is the one who failed to make the changes needed i.e McD stayed too long & both are culpable for retaining a squad top heavy with has beens & never will bes.
That said since MC'D has left the recruitment on/off the field & Sinfield taking over as DOR havent improved things.
It was always going to be a 2 season transition minimum but imo we've wasted 18 mths with signing & retaining too much dross & Sinfield in particular has been exposed as been way our of his depth.
I dont buy this "who else was available" bs either for signing or retaining old has beens or total passengers , the Furner sacking witjout a quality replacement has been a farce as well.
I like many others dont thiink we'll go down but the rebuild needed is still 2yrs minimum wlith so much time & money already wasted.
I also feel the next off season could be defining for Sinfield if he stays he has to learn from his mistakes & build the squad going forward with a more quality , better Coaching set up with a clear path for the next batch of jnrs to progress into the 1st Team.

Sinfield. Sacking and then not replacing Furner was a huge risk. If we go down, ultimately it's on him. I think he'll walk anyway if we do.

Don't think anyone's blameless. Leadership and coaches have been identified, I'd also add the players to the list. Neither has the academy delivered all it should.

You simply can not turn around the damage McDermott did through this club in 12 months, it will take another two years on top of that. People still do not get just what he did, with no player development from juniors, no succession planning, losing the dressing room by the end. In a salary capped sport this can not just change at the flick of fingers. However, Hetherington needs to also take his responsibility for allowing it and looking the other way.

Hetherington is to blame for not changing quickly enough and taking the eye off the ball on recruitment.

BMc also is to blame for imo getting v complacent, letting Maguire go and replacing with Myler was a disgrace.

Finally Sinfield for not replacing Furner with a quality coach is unforgivable if we go down.

Just remember 2015 ? It seems quite a few senior players seemed as if they had enough .Sinfield himself said he couldn't wait till the season ended . Even though that was the treble year the culture at the club was already in decline

No doubt Hetherington will blame the following
The fans for not doing more
All the other staff for not doing more
Leeds city council for not doing more
Rfl For not doing more
Caddick for not doing more
British government for not doing more
The Queen for not doing more

If fact everyone else but him who has lined his own pocket with cash whilst Rome has burned around him. I mean let's face the numpties on this site defend Hetherington because he took some brave steps ten years ago but reality is the root of ALL Leeds problems are 100% down to Hetherington

It’s never the fault of one person. You could say Hetherington is in overall charge and has to take overall responsibility but others have let the club down in recent years.

It's interesting how few people blame the people dropping balls, not fielding kick offs, missing tackles, leaving defensive gaps for no reason. Wonder why the players get away scot free?

Whilst the squad isn't a vintage it's a damn sight better than a relegation team and we shouldn't be anywhere near this position.

I would very clearly blame the players. If they had been putting in a full effort each game then they would be excused, but it’s clear they haven’t. Poor attitude = Poor execution.

Then you have more underlying reasons around the quality of player recruited, the quality of coaching etc.

They are all responsible, to different degrees...

We might not have the best squad in the league but there is no excuse for the amount of errors produced by the playing staff, they can all catch and pass a rugby ball!

That's because, had the other things been sorted correctly, those very players wouldn't be in a position to do that, either not here or developed better.

As others have said, there are many moving parts to this.

Hetherington does ultimately take overall responsibility as the Chief Executive. I think recruitment and retention are where most of the club's issues are rooted and that is probably a combination of Hetherington and McDermott. You cannot expect Sinfield to fix an issue with legacy contracts that were signed two or three years before he arrived, and in some cases stil, have two or three years to run.

But there are undoubtedly players who haven't performed either. Some of those players were brought to the club with strong reputations and with rep honours under their belts, and they haven't lived up to that.

Ultimately it’s down to Hetherington. McDermott got us into the mire and we were already in trouble when Sinfield arrived, but Hetherington has overseen the whole operation.

So if I have a bad month at work it's not my fault but that of my manager. In fact it's not his fault either it's the MD?

If the entire workforce is not producing over a protracted period, err well possibly.

Not a Gotcha lover but he is spot on with his comments . The one thing i can't get is posters still thinking that we have better players than we have , we are where we are because our players in the main are garbage and so is our coach . Can we get out of this ? . We need to beat Huddersfield , Salford and Catalan because i still doubt we will beat London .

The current team is actually very different to the team McDonut had. Are you blaming McD for Hurrell's lack of defensive position or Martin tackling high. Is it McD's fault we dropped a kick off v Hull?

How long does McD carry the can for? Just so we all know.

Brian McDermott so bad a coach he teaches bad habit to players hes never even coached. Lol.

spot on.
What would be ironic is a McDermott led Toronto replacing us in SL.

Those basic errors should have shown signs of there were being rectified. I honestly dont go expecting a reasonable performance let alone e win .

FWIW, I think there was a level of arrogance and complacency between GH and McD, who was more to blame I don’t know but on the quality of player would look at GH. His recent YEP interview where he said we were trying to bring through young players and had earmarked Jordan lilley for McGuire and mullally for kylie, spoke volumes for me.

I heard Caplan say once that McD had asked for certain players to replace KS and JP and did not get them.

Part of it is just the cycle of a great team going together and I think losing Hardaker in his prime was a big blow as well plus ward being injured.

Never replacing Sinfield in any way is another huge factor.

One example is what has happened in the number 8 shirt since kylie left. 2 years of Galloway who looked like he was pulling a fridge and 2 bad injuries , then a year of Cuthbertson struggling with injuries and now Crosby not playing a single game.

The forgotten man Crosby still drawing a wage

Article on him in the YEP, will not play this year and is targeting Boxing Day game for a comeback from another knee op for a micro fracture.

A4 pull out and keep poster of Dom Crosby in the next home programme to remind people what he looks like.