First 40 minutes of the season mate. Wouldn't get too carried away. Powell will have you playing some good rugby, but that won't necessarily win the Grand Final. He who laughs last Rodney.

I literally haven’t. Go read your own forum at the time when you got to the grand final.

It was absolutely laughable

Is deliberately slow line speed a tactic that is becoming more popular in the game or is it just us? Can someone explain why we would do it on purpose when seemingly everyone else wants the opposite? Is it just because our defensive ability and fitness is really poor?

At least it's your year

This is just one of those days where everything goes the opposition's way and everything we try doesn't come off.

See I don’t buy that because in everything I do in life the harder I’ve worked the luckier I’ve been. We’re just not working hard.

Olpherts has looked tidy. He's worked hard.

Ironically, we are playing like a team that wants rid of the coach…

Ash there, going for a stroll.

This defensive display has been embarrassing, absolutely no aggression or intensity whatsoever, players should be embarrassed

It’s almost funny this.

To be fair to Olpherts, he’s been our best player.

The attitude in defence has been poor. So soft. Especially on the goal line

Which speaks volumes.

In our case it would appear pre-season is a true reflection of where we are. The only quality signing is Sangare, the rest just the coaches mates, average players at best. Sends a terrible message to our academy, hence losing potential talent like Edwards

Myler again…

Mate you really don't rate him do you.

Well that was very poor. But I think some of you are wetting your nicks a bit early.

Having seen you in pre-season I really did think you were carp. But not that carp!

Sangare and Olpherts were positives.
Myler had his worst game in a Leeds shirt.

Nope, I think he has as many errors as pluses, and isn’t an improvement on what we already had. We missed Hardaker and the club chose Olpherts over him…

I want to see Smith's presser .

Even if Warrington are the best in Superleague, and I doubt that, to concede 42 points is scandalous. No commitment or intensity and no backbone. A terrible performance all round. Nothing more to say.

Let's be right with this. The club did not choose Olpherts over Zak. Olpherts was rumoured to be coming to Leeds from very early last year. He played pretty well tonight. Zak chose to go for Leigh for a lot of money. Good for him. For what it's worth, I agree with you on Myler. In an era where just about everybody has their best athlete at fullback, we have a plodder. Myler had a nightmare tonight, which is very rare for him, and I know he'll be a lot better next week. Thing is, he'll never be great because he's not strong and he's not quick. We need to spend money on the best full back we can get for next year.

Glad I put him in my fantasy team now...



Cant play this badly next week surely..!!

Well now it’s all over it really was bad.

Agree with those saying that Myler was A, terrible and B, can’t play that bad again.
For me the player escaping a lot of stick (particularly from the commentators who seemed keen to stick the boot in Austin) was Sezer. Austin tried absolutely everything and almost too much while his half back partner seemed to go into hiding for me (sorry if I sound like a Hudds fan)

The 3/4 selection just didn’t work. I think we need to get Handley back on the wing, and young Roberts isn’t ready. But I’m not sure we can achieve both those things, maybe fus in one centre, Martin in the other, with Tindall on the wing. The lad made some solid progress back end of last season. I’d also start O’Connor

In terms of positives, I thought fusi went well and the one howler aside Olpherts took his try well. Like I said I thought Austin tried absolutely everything without much support and Sangare was good, did more minutes than I thought and at least showed some aggression.