I don't cate about any of this. It's clearly a witch hunt by fans of other clubs trying to get a player banned, they don't give a rats about homophobia. And the use of the word fag as lots of connotation. Fag like gay means lame if your offended by a simple insult they you need to grow a pair. I was in an Indian restuaraunt once and the waiter taunted one of our group for ordering a prawn cocktail and a chicken korma so the waiter jokingly called him a fag.

Lots of people seem to think they know exactly what Zak said, who he said it to, what he actually meant, and if the receiver was offended or not. This is ridiculous, from the posts people normally put on here they don't even know what they mean never mind someone else...

Anyone who takes this seriously and is actually offended rather than this faux offence that some are showing needs to grow up a bit. This is not tiddlywinks and as has been pointed out already if anyone involved in the incident was offended they would have done something about it at the time.

If people really want something to get offended about, what about the case in Sudan of the woman on death row simply because she married someone "of the wrong faith". That's worth all the hot air that is being generated not this.

Frankly I think that anyone on this thread who is making a mountain out of a molehill is a "Feckin Faggot"...

Lets get this straight.

Nobody thinks they can get an advantage over Leeds if there homophobic fullback gets banned.

He just should be banned. end of.

Your mob couldn't get an advantage if 17 of us off Southstander took to the pitch.

Love it when we get a bit of pontification from a Hull resident......

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No worse than Lee Radford's "fight" with Ryan Bailey.

And here's the thing about language, you have to be careful how you use it.

You're now throwing around the term "homophobic". The Oxford online dictionary describes homophobia as "An extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.".

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Even IF Zak used that term I don't see how he used it in a homophobic way. I doubt he put any thought whatsoever into the sexual preferences of whatever person he allegedly aimed the comment at.

I'll ask again, do you know Zak's sexual preference? Because if he is gay and if he said the term alleged then, by dictionary definition, he is allowed to do so. Bizarre don't you think?

Storm in a tea cup this by others allowing themselves to get outraged in behalf those that are not.

And THAT paragraph precisely sums up why something should be done about it.
If people use derogatory terms with no thought whatsoever than that is no better. The thing is - zak SHOULD know better given the stonewall cmpaign he was involved in.
Either hes a nasty homophobe or in ignorance either way it needs addressing

Who are you calling straight?

BURN HIM.

I don't live in hull.

So by coming back with that, I see that as you trying to get us off the point here which is your fullback

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Huddersfield Giants have just rung up to ask if they can have their posts back.

No, it's either been used in a homophobic way and used as a form of prejudice which seems unlikely and without evidence, or he's said it as a throw away comment which can not be construed as homophobic and therefore is a storm in a teacup. If we can prove unequivocally that he's used it as a form of abuse, then I agree he should be adequately punished.

Sounds to me like most on here want to make an example of someone for the increasing foul language in the game and who better than one of the top performers of the season so far? Don't we just hate winners in this country!

I bet there's primary school children laughing at the way some on here are lauding about being so precious! After all, don't they get taught the old 'sticks and stones...'?

And, of course, there would have been exactly this same reaction from Leeds fans if it was say Sam Tomkins who was involved.

Those the only two options?

What about he may not have actually said what he is being accused of saying?

Good to see the Hull fans on the thread putting up more of a fight than their team is this year.

as I've said - if he said it as a throw away comment that needs addressing also because that shows ignorance.
as for your comments about school- if one of my pupils made such a comment the comment would be taken seriously - it would be dealt with and NOT laughed off.
the LA school policy states that special record will be made of any behaviour involving level 3 incidents. Level 3 are classed as most severe.
Homophobia is number one on the list.
HTH

get your pants out of your crack - I said IF

Actually, you didn't. I come back to the interesting topic of language.

You said

You said "if people" then in a new sentence said Zak, specifically should know better and was either a nasty homphobe or ignorant. You didn't qualify by saying those were the two options IF Zak has used the terms alleged. I'll accept that is what you meant but just shows how we shouldn't necessarily assume we understand the meaning intended by people's words, written or screamed on a rugbv pitch.

Probably the most ignorance going on is by fans who don't think that sort of language isn't used all the time. I'd hazard a guess that every single club had at least one player who used a homophobic term.....but as you didn't see it then ignorance is bliss.

What if Hardaker when questioned admits to saying but it was a response to a Wire player who had just called him a "fu**ing puff/bender/queer." As we didn't see it would opposition fans say this is also unacceptable or would they say it's Hardaker trying to squirm his way out?

How many of these disgruntled fans, who use the phrase "but I'm offended because I know people who are gay" ( which to be honest is a little patronising that you're offended on their behalf), use colourful language in stands every week with no thought about how others might not like it and find crude and inappropriate in front of kids?

Great post!

If you're referring to my post, then you've misinterpreted. I merely asked if your reaction would be the same if it was a player from another team.

Hardaker could be the next Julian Clary. He isnt allowed to use that word on an RL field, it is a homophobic slur. That it is a homophobic slur is not really a debate, it is accepted by pretty much all to be so.

Im not even saying Hardaker is homophobic (again if true) simply that a word he used was a homophobic slur. The same as if you sing along to Dr Dre and say the word n.igger it doesnt make you racist. It does mean you used a racist word and nobody would argue there is a place for that word, to be said in anger, on an RL field

We are Leeds Rhino's, we are a modern progressive club, we are better than defending this.

Well it is obvious to everyone what Zak shouted it was F'ing Faggot.

Ask him maybe ?

I don't give a monkeys personally but everyone knows what he shouted if they watched that clip.