I thought this was going to be a long the lines of break the cap to ensure we stay up. I'd rather do that and take the penalties next year than see Kev come back

If this was 2016 it might not be a completely barking mad idea. I'd rather go the salary cap breach route as well if we had to...

What might be worth doing, even if it causes guffaws all round, is have a look at any halfbacks in the Championship who can kick and organise. They don't have to be stars, but it looks like we're putting all our eggs into the basket of getting a halfback from somewhere (if Maloney was the target he'll most likely see out the rest of Origin unless NSW lose game 2 this weekend). When you watch Leeds there's no sense of control, or who is supposed to be in charge when we have the ball. Compared to Myler/Sutcliffe there must be some Championship/reserve SL halfbacks who at least know what to do on the last tackle or how to compose a set of 6?

I agree fully with this, look at Championship. I genuinely think seven, as long as Sutcliffe isn’t six, is a bigger problem for us currently. There is two or three really good organising sevens down there that could work. If it is six, then what about our Fev tie up? Chisholm looks pure class compared to what we have. And although I thought daft at the time, I don’t think Schofield was far wrong on his Murrell comment. Of course unless a promising player, it should only be an end of season move. But do reckon Chisholm and McClelland could be a good formula. What happened with that quality Widnes half that came in back end of last season?

Gareth Ellis has come out of retirement and playing again for Hull, he is the same age as Sir Kev.

Championship half backs I like the look of are Jonathan Ford at Toulouse and Connor Robinson at York. But I’m convinced we’re signing Jackson Hastings for 2020, we just need to retain our Super League place.

Sinfield hasn't played competitive pro sport for almost 4 years. Ellis was playing last year. The last halfback I remember trying to come back - younger than Sinfield is now and after just 1 year out - was John Holmes in 86-87. That was sad, because what little speed he had when he had retired had gone completely. I shudder to think how slow Sinfield would be now given Holmes would have been quicker at his peak.

Gotcha - I'd genuinely have a look at a couple of the names you mention on loan for a month. Even if we do get Hastings/Maloney at some stage, we're 1 injury from where we are now, and that is just horrific to contemplate in a pressurised end of season. They've got no composure even when we're leading by 20 points. I couldn't care less if they're never going to be long-term signings, all that matters is fixing us now.

Ellis retired in 2017 and returned in 2019. Did not play in 2018.

It's June man, not 1st of April.

Scott Murrell???? Lol. Come on.

Why would he leave Fax when hes a potential trip to Wembley to look forward to.

Seriously tho stop panicking.

Its not panic its sensible recruitment. Kr and London are pushing and we have no room for manoeuvre or complacency. More importantly we're running out of games to kick away.

Exactly, look at the impact Ellis has had, and Sinfield retired in 2016.

Is Sinfield coming out of retirement ideal? No, but when you are joint bottom of the league have no decent half backs and no kicking game, I genuinely think he would improve our side.

I wasn't panicking Marty, I have been clear on that. I also had the same opinion as you when Schofield said it, but now I actually think he wasn't so stupid. Murrell would have far more positive influence on this team that Sutcliffe could manage.

More and more I think about it though, I would actually seriously consider the Dane Chisolm move, simply for a month. We bring him in next week, and I would back us to beat Catalans, Cas, Hull KR, and Hull. Then we start planning on next year with room to breathe.

Sinfield out of retirement? How did that work out for Peacock?

Pretty sure weve not released Watkins early to bring in Murrell and Chisholm. At least I bloody hope not anyway.

Seriously Scott Murrell....I cant stop laughing.

Watkins released was primarily on sorting next season, not this.

Rather than laughing, maybe you should be thinking about whether it is an improvement on what we have. If you think not, then that's your problem to overcome. However, would it be the answer long term? would it hell as like. But what is more important right now?

A Murrell or Chisholm is just swapping one set of deficiencies for another, I don't see how it would work.
Sinfield represents a legacy which has gone, and is not coming back. Our total focus should be on supporting him to do his job behind the scenes rebuilding this side, which I for one don't envy, and looking forwards.

Why would murrel jump ship from a club with a CC semi coming up to get involved in a relegation dogfight? I'm sure he'd turn you down. How about chris atkin on loan for the rest of the season?

Marty is right, you're treating this like some kind of pick n mix in a sweet shop.



BTW - Keep yer hands off Ridyard.

I like Pick n mix.

BTW keep out of it.

NO!

Problem with that is if Leeds do end up relegated this year the stands will be only half full and financially that would be a disaster I personally would not buy a season ticket if we end up in lower division I would just pick and choose a couple of games that looked tasty and then each weekend go to the best local Super league match that was not televised. Hetheringtons business would be in tatters

That's not really how being a fan works though is it? You'd rather pump money into the coffers of a team you don't support than watch a side you claim to be a fan of because they're on a bit of a downward spiral? The very definition of fair weather. Did you pay Hetherington extra money at the end of each season when we won trophies? A bonus for good performance?

Don't worry about that, Bramleyrhino and his marketing expertise should put you in the right direction.

I get where you are coming from, but that's not really how it works either. There are no merit awards for fandom, people can choose to watch what they want when they want. Sport is a form of entertainment, perhaps a more tribal one than other forms but still in the same basket.

If you don't like what's on offer for the price it's on offer, you're free to shop elsewhere without criticism.

It depends whether you are primarily a fan of the sport or just a club. I watch Leeds far more than my own team because it suits my lifestyle in fantastic surroundings. Plus I get some hospitality....

The stands are far from full now .I've been through bad times before at this club ,but I didnt not look forward to the next game like I do now . That might be an age thing though ,but the clubs fanbase has grown in the last 20 years or so and many of these newish fans are not steeped in the club like some of us are .If they stop attending they will take some attracting back