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| Quote ="Frosties."Always better from the horses mouth..'"
Maybe Leeds can loan him to Huddersfield this year before he moves to the Rhinos for the 2017 season.
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| Already said that mate.
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| Leigh have no need to sell, they can bend any potential purchasers over a barrel.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Always better from the horses mouth..'"
Is this because you now live in a stable?
I seem to recall you bet you house on him becoming a Leeds player if Leigh did not get promoted last season
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| And if you look back I also given a latest update after that stating that it had changed.
Isn't it funny, why would Huddersfield need to bid for Brierley when the clause in his contract states he can now in effect leave the club? There would be no need to bid, obviously a lot more is involved in this, as I have previously stated.
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| Quote ="Frosties."And if you look back I also given a latest update after that stating that it had changed.
Isn't it funny, why would Huddersfield need to bid for Brierley when the clause in his contract states he can now in effect leave the club? There would be no need to bid, obviously a lot more is involved in this, as I have previously stated.'"
Leighs chairman has publicly stated that the clause allowing Brierley to leave is illegal and cannot be enforced.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Leighs chairman has publicly stated that the clause allowing Brierley to leave is illegal and cannot be enforced.'"
As a matter of course all player registrations are held by the RFL, aren't they? So even if Brierley were to walk he couldn't just turn out for another team unless Leigh decided not to contest it.
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| Been told Brierley is going to sign for Leeds & Sutcliffe going to spend the season at Fev
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| Quote ="ADAMJLEEDS"Been told Brierley is going to sign for Leeds & Sutcliffe going to spend the season at Fev'"
Hey ho! Here we go
Im sure Sutcliffe will be extemely happy with that
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| Quote ="Frosties."And if you look back I also given a latest update after that stating that it had changed..'"
But wasn't blindly believing "the horse's mouth" the reason you gambled away your house?
And knowing now that your predicted done deal was no such thing why believe Mr Ed again now?
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| Quote ="ADAMJLEEDS"Been told Brierley is going to sign for Leeds & Sutcliffe going to spend the season at Fev'"
With the injuries we are getting recently there is more chance of:
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With Falloon coming off the bench.
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| Quote ="Frosties."With the injuries we are getting recently there is more chance of:
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With Falloon coming off the bench.'"
Good idea lets play sutcliffe at 13, in fact he can play against Jason Taumalolo this week, its not like the 3 stone difference is gonna matter in a position that is basically a quicker or more skillful prop
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Good idea lets play sutcliffe at 13, in fact he can play against Jason Taumalolo this week, its not like the 3 stone difference is gonna matter in a position that is basically a quicker or more skillful prop
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Sinfield wasn't the biggest player and he played 13 for quite some time...
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| Quote ="Frosties."Sinfield wasn't the biggest player and he played 13 for quite some time...'"
He was a bit bigger when he played 13 every game if you remember, he struggled a bit when he played there last year
Also when he played 13 we basically just played with 3 halves, which is why in many big games burrow or Mcguire would start on the bench so our forwards could get a roll on
the roll of 13 is completely different now, if we were to play Sutcliffe there we would need 3 props on the bench plus a big second row to stop the opposition getting a roll on
For me our best starting 13 option is Singleton- basically a prop with quick feet
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| Times have changed re the loose forward position. Especially if we're playing Burrow at hooker, we can't have 4 halves defending at the same time. When we had Sinfield at 13 we had Diskin at 9 most of the time doing some cracking defensive work.
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| Quote ="Frosties."And if you look back I also given a latest update after that stating that it had changed.
Isn't it funny, why would Huddersfield need to bid for Brierley when the clause in his contract states he can now in effect leave the club?.'"
Why would Hudds be trying to negotiate with Leigh anyways? You said he was a Leeds player now and was merely on loan at Leigh this year so surely they should be asking us not Leigh.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Why would Hudds be trying to negotiate with Leigh anyways? You said he was a Leeds player now and was merely on loan at Leigh this year so surely they should be asking us not Leigh.'"
Because deals with other clubs are not known about, just like when Leeds went in for Clark even though he'd already agreed to go to Warrington. Things are put in place and not public knowledge.
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| Quote ="Him"Times have changed re the loose forward position. Especially if we're playing Burrow at hooker, we can't have 4 halves defending at the same time. When we had Sinfield at 13 we had Diskin at 9 most of the time doing some cracking defensive work.'"
Times have changed, and why Burrow is no longer suited to the modern game.
Personally don't like the changes with the 13's, preferred the old ball handlers. But for now I actually think it will be Mullally who might claim that 13 spot for us. From what I hear, he has exceeded expectations at the club, and coaches and players alike are very impressed with him.
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| Maybe Mullally might get a run on Sunday?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Times have changed, and why Burrow is no longer suited to the modern game.
Personally don't like the changes with the 13's, preferred the old ball handlers. But for now I actually think it will be Mullally who might claim that 13 spot for us. From what I hear, he has exceeded expectations at the club, and coaches and players alike are very impressed with him.'"
I think Burrow can still have an impact in the modern game but off the bench. I still think there's a place for him but it means you can't put another ball player at 13. We can't go with, for instance:
6. McGuire
7. Lilley
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There's just too many light defenders in there to cover.
If people want Sutcliffe at 13 then you've got to have a strong defender at hooker. Even then it's still a stretch at times to cover 3 players when most teams are only covering 2.
I'm 100% for attacking, skillful, passing/offloading rugby. But that has to be balanced with enough attacking and defensive grunt, or all that skill won't get used. I think some people forget that our pack was fantastic last season and it was having that fantastic pack that enabled the likes of McGuire, Moon, Watkins, Hardaker etc to show their skill. I think people are focussing on the loss of Sinfield, whereas I think the combined loss of Leuluai and Peacock will be just as big.
I agree, I also preferred having another ball player at 13 but I suppose that role has been taken by the full back now instead leaving 13 free to be either a workhorse or a battering ram.
I've heard the same re Mullally. His attitude seems to be good from what I've heard.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Maybe Mullally might get a run on Sunday?'"
He is apparently.
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| I think it's easy to underestimate the amount of chopping and changing that has gone on already at Leeds in terms of defensive structure on the edges this season.
While the wingers and centres haven't changed, the shuffling around of half-backs, hookers and second rows both between games and notably last weekend within the game due to injury must be making it hard to build up a cohesive defensive unit.The run at the back end of last season had pretty much a settled structure on both sides of the field, which has gone out of the window with the loss of Ward, the recruitment of Ferres, the return of Sutcliffe and Lilley seeing more game time.
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| Quote ="Him"I think Burrow can still have an impact in the modern game but off the bench. I still think there's a place for him but it means you can't put another ball player at 13. We can't go with, for instance:
6. McGuire
7. Lilley
9. Burrow
13. Sutcliffe
There's just too many light defenders in there to cover.
If people want Sutcliffe at 13 then you've got to have a strong defender at hooker. Even then it's still a stretch at times to cover 3 players when most teams are only covering 2.
I'm 100% for attacking, skillful, passing/offloading rugby. But that has to be balanced with enough attacking and defensive grunt, or all that skill won't get used. I think some people forget that our pack was fantastic last season and it was having that fantastic pack that enabled the likes of McGuire, Moon, Watkins, Hardaker etc to show their skill. I think people are focussing on the loss of Sinfield, whereas I think the combined loss of Leuluai and Peacock will be just as big.
I agree, I also preferred having another ball player at 13 but I suppose that role has been taken by the full back now instead leaving 13 free to be either a workhorse or a battering ram.
I've heard the same re Mullally. His attitude seems to be good from what I've heard.'"
I would agree with you regarding Burrow and don't see Sutty as 13 in the modern game. However not sure yet that he is the ideal 6 either, so he remains a work in progress with great potential and could well end up in the centres. I also want to see open attractive rugby which means the creative playmakers taking risks so we have to allow youngsters who are selected to fill these roles the time to learn their trade at the highest level.
I also like the look of Mullally who could prove to be an astute signing and potentially our other forward recruits look good and capable of an offload game but they have yet to hit form as a unit. To date ZH has not shown he is a ball player and has not yet shown he can fill our need for a linking FB although Golding looks to have these skills.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"I would agree with you regarding Burrow and don't see Sutty as 13 in the modern game. However not sure yet that he is the ideal 6 either, so he remains a work in progress with great potential and could well end up in the centres. I also want to see open attractive rugby which means the creative playmakers taking risks so we have to allow youngsters who are selected to fill these roles the time to learn their trade at the highest level.
I also like the look of Mullally who could prove to be an astute signing and potentially our other forward recruits look good and capable of an offload game but they have yet to hit form as a unit. To date ZH has not shown he is a ball player and has not yet shown he can fill our need for a linking FB although Golding looks to have these skills.'"
Hardaker back to the wing for you then? .....in place of?
I agree Sutcliffe (and prob Ward....and Ablett, who I still think is best at LF) no longer fulfill the 'modern' requirements of a LF. The 3rd prop role is much better fulfilled by Delaney, Singleton or Cuthbertson (or Mullaley?)
Can't see Sutcliffe making a good centre !!!
To fit in Golding, I think we both agree he could easily be moulded into a quality Half Back - something I see is beyond Zak. His (Zak's) defensive capabilities still make him a quality FB, but I can see he does seem beyond any improvement on linking in attack. Overall he still commands the FB spot for me though.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I think it's easy to underestimate the amount of chopping and changing that has gone on already at Leeds in terms of defensive structure on the edges this season.
While the wingers and centres haven't changed, the shuffling around of half-backs, hookers and second rows both between games and notably last weekend within the game due to injury must be making it hard to build up a cohesive defensive unit.The run at the back end of last season had pretty much a settled structure on both sides of the field, which has gone out of the window with the loss of Ward, the recruitment of Ferres, the return of Sutcliffe and Lilley seeing more game time.'"
Agree with this, add into mix Galloway has played only 2 games in middle, garbutt a handful and no hooker ...
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