Thaler absolutely bottled it as per

I knew this thread was coming, as you can never take losing to us.

My friend, there was no spear tackle, the referee's exact words were 'I know you put him on his back, the penalty if for lifting into a dangerous position'. That is why there was no red card, because no spear tackle occurred.

No thuggery, no cheating, you just got outplayed, deal with it.

McIlorum shouldn't have gone into the sin bin, it was just a standard high shot, worthy of a penalty, nothing more, and he was talking to Thaler when the fight broke out.

Get a grip. You're an embarassment.

Wigan bitchslapped us, I mean they really did a number on us.

You didn't even look like you wanted to win it until Sinfield went to dummy half.

In fact, some of you kids are embarrassing, just admit you we're beat by the better team, it's rugby league, if you don't like it, then stick to football or some other non contact sport.

I don't see you talking about how Bailey led with the elbow/forearm into Suttons face.

You're right, McDermott was duped. He made the strategically poor decision of trying to play Rugby League according to its rules. He should have foreseen that as an foohardy move that would make victory less likely.

Three massive decisions Wigan got off Scott-free on:

McIlroum swinging arm to JP's face - Red

Bateman's three punches to Bailey's head - Red

Spear tackle - Red

All given as yellows / OR.

Then let's look at the others

- We're pressuring the Wigan line, Sinfield breaks through. Knocked out of his hands after the tackle was completed, given as a knock on.

- Sutcliffe makes a tackle, Bowen takes a swing at him. Wigan penalty for holding down? Next set, Wigan hold JP down for about 10 seconds, no penalty. Should have been our penalty and a yellow for Bowen.

- Try chalked off - bull was it a knock on. There's 6 arms in their, and even with their 'super zoom' you can't see whether Moon had it in the first place, or whether Smith knocked it out. Try, BotD.

Also Wigan being about 5m offside all match long.

But yes, it's McDermott's fault. Why don't you get the off of here and take your ty little agenda with you?

Anyway, onwards & upwards. Drop BJB, have Aiton & Burrow back for the GF and we'll rape them so hard McIlroum will be walking bow-legged till 2016.

McIlorum on one hand can consider himself unlucky. If that incident happens after 5/10 mins of clean play then no problem. Doing it 10 secs after being talked to by the ref was dumb.

The spear tackle, regardless of what the ref said it was dangerous and he can't be taken seriously saying he KNEW the player was trying to put him on his back.

This is embarrassing. Whatever we lost deal with it

Hahahahaha

McDermott admitted it was a knock on. Case closed.

Think the problem with the spear tackle was the two others in the tackle adding weight. Hall wasn't lowered to the floor he was banged in. If the mistake was made lifting legs and they controlled hall to the ground I could understand the refs comments but this wasn't the case

You should get off the forums before you really make a fool of yourself. I suggest you start with Wikipedia and learn some of the basics of the game pal.

A spear tackle is when someone lands on their head. Hall didn't, it was his back.

And as for people saying McIlorums was a swinging arm, no it wasn't. Just watch the replays.

Wow you're an idiot.

2nd half was great to watch and if [iboth[/i teams had played like that in the first half then Leeds would've won by 2-3 tries. Unfortunately with that thug in charge of Wigan it was never going to happen.

It was high, 30 seconds after a mass brawl and team warning. He's lucky it was only 10.

Seriously, grow up

Haha and I'm the idiot. You keep crying like a spoilt child. This is the type of crap I used to spout out when I lost a match at school.

I just think leeds went into that game in exhibition mode.compare that to wigan who played with the intensity of a grand final.you could during the halftime in the hull game all the players were walking round the pitch an hour before our game waving and taking pictures.I would wager at that time the ape was in the wigan changing room giving his war cry.

its an attitude thing which stems from the mentality going in.its very hard to switch it on mid game and of course we never did match wigan in the intensity stakes.

Yessir

Who's crying?



Losing to NZ in the dying seconds at Wembley brought me to tears, losing to a load of thugs in a mid-season exhibition match doesn't even come close.

OK kiddo. Have fun. We'll be waiting to play you again with our 'thugs'.

I'm sorry, but I think punching & spear tackles are red card offences. You know what pal? So does the rule book.

15.1 (a) Trips, Kicks or Strikes another player

Running in & punching, opponent off guard. E-F

15.1 (b) When tackling or attempting to tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent.

Intentional – clenched fist – intent to make contact with head. D-F.

15.1 (d) Uses a dangerous throw

Dangerous throw, throwing player into the ground. D-E.

D: 3-5
E: 5-8
F: 8+ or Suspension period

So 'Mickey Mac' (the little ), Bateman & Crosby should all be getting three weeks to kick their heels.

Aye.

Here's a great shot of Batemen warming up tonight, pre match...

I've said it before I'll say it again. It wasn't a spear tackle. That's why it wasn't red. Thaler said at the time 'you out him on his back' that it not a spear tackle.

The rules say, running in and punching off guard, Bailey ran in towards Bateman, he initiated the confrontation with Bateman.
And as for punching, Bailey was punching too, he just lost the fight.
Bailey ran towards the wigan players and invaded there space, if he hadn't done that, there would have been no fight. If your little angels would have just accepted the high shot and moved on, no fight would have occurred.

Fair enough I got the terminology wrong. Point still stands can't lift the legs above horizontal. If player was controlled to the ground then can be negated but hall wasn't.

Re MM didn't say he was swinging his arm. He did one high shot. Don't think it was particulary bad but bad timing after having a dressing down from the ref just before.

All of this doesn't negate the fact we lost Wigan wanted it more than us. Fair play