1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Gleeson
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Tomkins
8. Peacock
9. Higham
10. Morley
11. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. Sinfield

14. Roby
15. Carvell
16. Graham
17. O'Loughlin

1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Smith
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Burrow
8. Graham
9. Diskin
10. Peacock
11. S. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. Sinfield

14. Roby
15. Morley
16. JJB
17. Crabtree

Briscoe
Smith
Bridge
Shenton
Hall
Tompkins
McGuire
Graham
Moore
Peacock
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess

Morley
Crabtree
Roby
Eastmond

[size=150YOU'VE NOT INCLUDED ANY CELTIC CRUSADERS PLAYERS, YOU PEENIS.
WHAT, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY DECENT ENGLISHMAN ?
BLESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size

Are all posters from Hamilton backwards or is it just me?

Smith
Hall
Senior
Shenton
Fox

Tomkins
McGuire

Peacock
Moore
Graham
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin

Sinfield
Morley
Crabtree
Eastmond

Just to throw my twopennorth in. Against these two touring squads i just don't think there's enough granite in the key positions. I'd like to see Higham's niggle around the ruck area. Or Senior being straight swapped for another defensively reliable player who has that needle that can get under Inglis skin. Has Yeaman nothing else to offer?

1. Smith
2. Fox
3. Gleeson
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. McGuire
8. Graham
9. Moore
10. Peacock
11. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin

SUBS

14. Roby
15. Morley
16. Crabtree
17. Wetwood

I think it's just you that's backwards.

official team

England: Paul Sykes (Bradford)

; Peter Fox (Hull KR), Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan)

, Michael Shenton (Castleford), Tom Briscoe (Hull FC); Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Richard Myler (Salford); Adrian Morley (Warrington, capt), Scott Moore (Huddersfield), Garreth Carvell (Warrington), Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers), Ben Westwood

(Warrington), Sam Burgess (Bradford).

Replacements: Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook (Harlequins), Mickey Higham (Warrington), Chris Bridge

(Warrington), Danny Tickle

(Hull

Is there anyone out there who still rates Paul Sykes??

Anyone........


Anyone at all?????

Smith clearly isn't watching the same game as the rest of us ...


Didn't pick Burrow in the squad, yet is happy to run with someone who's team's season ended 6 weeks ago and the player in question hasn't played a competative game since July.

Didn't pick the form centre in the competition, then ends up playing someone else out of position because we have that few decent centres in this country. Not to mention, the player he picked had a perm ...

Smith

fox
eastmond
shenton
hall

mcguire
tomkins

Graham
Moore
peacock
ellis
burgess
sinfield

Roby
O'loughlin
Morley
carvell

that's about the best I can come up with out of what we have due to TS' eye opening squad selection!

The 3/4 looks out of its depth to say the least.

I am officially in shock about how bad Sykes is, he makes the most fundemental mistakes which you wouldn't expect to see at Junior level.

But then again you look who the Assistant Coach is and then you realise the reason why he is in - has ever a man with such limited ability ever risen to such a height in any profession?

Step forward Steve McNamara - a man who really is a clueeless muppet of the highest order.

I sat in the newcastle(nsw) Ibis lobby chewing the fat with andy wilson and dave hadfield after seeing sykes put in what was one of the most shocking performances to lose a team a game I have seen at any level. he was genuinly up there with meli! as hadfield said he's just not international standard! Wilson and I both agreed!

Mcbannana and sykes should be nowhere near this team

and myler in front of burrow? at the moment he isn't even close however he has signed for warrington.......................

That is a wind up.

[uCurrent Four Nations:[/u

FB: Sean Briscoe
LW: Ryan Hall
LC: Michael Shenton
RC: Lee Smith/Kyle Eastmond
RW: Peter Fox
SO: Danny McGuire
SH: Sam Tomkins
P: Adrian Morley
HK: Scott Moore
P: Jamie Peacock
SR: Gareth Ellis
SR: Sean O'Loughlin
LF: Kevin Sinfield

SUB: James Roby
SUB: James Graham
SUB: Sam Burgess
SUB: Eorl Crabtree

Not to mention that last night was his first competative game since July, after Salford dropped him when Myler said he was off ...

Jones-Bishop

Watkins
Smith
Senior
Hall

McGuire
Burrow

Peacock
Diskin
Bailey
Jones-Buchannan
Ablett
Sinfield

Kirke
Worrall
Pitts
Amor

For me it would be:

Smith
T. Briscoe, Eastmond, Bridge, Hall
Tomkins, McGuire
Graham, Moore, Peacock
Ellis, Burgess
Sinfield

Roby, O'Loughlin, Morley, Gilmour

Possibly swapping Eastmond and Smith around, to get the best out of his attack. Although you then get the risk of a less safe FB.

I can't fault him for either. Burrow has been off the ball. He needs to do more to merrit the international spot. Its time for england to move on from Keith and his non inclusion will only benefit us long term, even if that means not wasting another game trying who he picked.

How some people have put Burrow ahead of Tomkins and not included O'Loughlin is beyond me.

It's straight forward,the best half back pairing in SL are Mcguire and Burrow.
It's seen as a straight choice between Mcguire and Tompkins and as well as tompkins has done this season for England it's a no brainer in many fans opinion.
As for O'loughlin no thanks!!!!!!!
Just to add that Burrow and Mcguire haven't done anything really bad to warrant either getting dropped and the fact that sykes is selected with myler and Burrow isn't highlights the glaring bias in squad selection.

Have McGuire, Burrow and Sinfield ever all started a game together for England / GB?