And have a nice la las tonight.

good one man

If you love Australia so much why dont you f off and live there? Im sure due to your latest stats, that James Graham is looking for a flat mate to rub suncream on him and im quite sure he would love some one like you to do it for him. You make me laugh if you hate English RL and inparticular Leeds so much WTF are you doing wasting your time on here when you could be cracking one off to the NRL??

He doesn't need to, it's Swiftcorn he will be getting his daily ration of 'Burbing the worm' at the amount of replys he has generated on here.

Swiftcorn = same boring predictable S**t .. Different day

Truth hurts - answer the man's points?

Changing the tack smacks of defeat - how did they used to call on here "owned"

Anyone who watches the NRL on a regular basis can see the gulf in quality - to suggest references to it should ignored - because it makes your argument look bad - is laughable.

Get your head out of the sand - Peacock has been a top SL player, but to suggest he could cut it with the likes of Matt Scott -especially now - on a weekly basis is delusional.

If Peacock went to the NRL I am sure he would give a good account of himself, the stats that Swiftcorn as posted are only one side of the game, stats don't account for guts and determination which Peacock as in bucket loads but Graham as in a teacup.
There have been many so called battle hardened NRL players over the years who have come into Superleague and failed to hack it. The likes of Greg Eastwood, Ben Cross and Josh Perry to name but a few.

Considering the absolute dross which has cut it with the likes of Matt Scott in the NRL, and even won Grand Finals and made SoO I have no doubt Peacock could. When the likes of Ryan Tandy can come over here and struggle in such a low intensity environment yet then go back and get a contract with not one, not two but 3 NRL sides, and play in a Grand Final then only someone blinded by an almost masochistic inferiority complex could believe Peacock would struggle.

Its a wonder Australian internationals like Josh Perry, Joel Clinton and Antonio Kaufusi or an SoO prop like Ben Cross barely look like above average players in this lower intensity competition, and look vastly inferior to Peacock even at this stage of his career considering their Australian ubermenschen credentials.

I think that's missing the point, anyone is entitled to dislike or find the product inferior. The point being made is, if that is how he feels why continue to waste
time paying even a passing interest and forcing the same points time and time again. And if it really is for the purpose of getting a reaction/'owning' then that pretty much answers everything you need to know about someone.

But then the players you mentioned such as Tandy were only over here for a payday/holiday, and in all fairness were probably laughing so hard at the pi$$ poor SL that they could hardly focus on playing rugby.....just playing devils advocate

Not until you've frequented that boozer next door it isn't.

They can't answer the points I've raised because they've no credible argument to counter them, hence the ted ad hominem nature of their responses.

If any other club in SL had signed or re-signed a player almost until his 37th birthday it would have been questioned and ridiculed by these very same people who are hailing JP's 2 year contract extension as fantastic news.

It is perfectly legitimate to question this contract extension (particularly the length of it), given that he's no spring chicken and in decline as a player. To suggest that it's a fantastic signing on the basis that NRL clubs were sniffing around hoping to sign him may be considered delusional at best and utterly demented at worst.

I repeat - it's a good technique at Super League level against very ordinary opposition. I've never seen this technique utilised successfully against Australia at international level, nor did I see any evidence of it in the pre-season exhibition game against Manly. Feel free to provide evidence and examples of this technique of his which shows him ripping it up against the Australians making huge meters and offloads aplently. I'm still waiting.

Five to ten years ago maybe, but definitely not now he's approaching his geriatric era.


This has to be the most ted comment posted for quite some time, even outdoing unsubstantiated suggestions that NRL clubs were lining up to sign JP at the age of 35. James Graham has not only been this country's best prop forward for the past five years, he's been our best player by some distance for the same length of time both in Super League and - more crucially - at international level. To suggest that Graham lacks the guts and determination which JP has in bucket loads is the type of contribution expected from someone who is clueless and has lost the plot completely. It wasn't James Graham who had to take a breather and fall off a tackle in the 4N Final allowing Paul Gallen to waltz past him before offloading to Thurston for a try under the sticks. I'd like to think JP will now do the sensible thing and retire from the international stage with good grace rather than dragging a zimmer frame along for the 2013 World Cup.


He was still Leeds most effective forward in numerous games despite pining for a return down under. However, now he's no longer at Leeds and returned home early, he was obviously rubbish and was rubbish all along.


Hailed on here as a good signing by some when first recruited - a solid, no nonsense prop who will make the hard yards, etc. Those who questioned his signing at the time (like me for instance) were pilloried for having the audacity to question GH's latest sleeve acquisition - no surprises there

Please give evidence to prove your claim that JP "invariably... pirouettes... the full 360º... on one leg"

I am waiting.......

....still waiting....

etc.




I take it you couldn't quite stomach seeing the WCC tape again....you know the one where your NRL heros were put in their place. Had you done that you must have seen JP performing his "invariable pirouette" technique to good effect against the Internationals from 'down under' who on this occassion were truly 'down and out'

The standard and intensity across the board in the NRL is higher, owing greatly to the numbers playing the sport at all levels in Aus and the pressure for places this creates.

I can't comment on junior coaching down under but in this country the standard isn't always the best but we're trying to address this, something I feel is a major factor along with the transition to summer rugby which over the coming years (decades) will make a big difference.

As for peacock IMO he would have gone great in the NRL a few years back, now he would be ok I think nothing more if you're talking about consistently performing.
Does that reflect the difference in the 2 competitions, probably so but that doesn't bother me I just take both for what they are and enjoy it.

I suspect all would agree to be honest ....it's just that some, more than others, enjoy making other contributors 'bite' ...and the greater the indignation the better.

Meh, put him on ignore and leave him to it. He usually disappears just after the Grand Final anyway.

That's pushing it a bit don't you think - the past 3 years, without a doubt but 5 years?

Some of the larger amateur clubs in Oz have professional coaches for their 'older' juniors.

Feel free to disagree. I've considered James Graham our best player at least since and including 2006. He's the only England player who turned up for the last World Cup in 2008 and didn't embarrass himself or appear completely out of his depth in that tournament. I believe only Sam Burgess has more potential and natural talent but he's out injured too often and isn't as consistent.

It would have been interesting to see if some of our high profile would have had the desire to be a small fish in a big pond rather tan the other way round?

Graham/Ellis/Burgess are to be applauded for testing themselves in the ultimate version of the game - maybe if some of these high profile players had tested themselves the speed and intensity of international rugby would not have exposed their failings in such a tangible manner?

Signing a player until he is 37 is the real point here!!

For someone like your self who is in love with all things NRL, having played SoO he should at the very least be able to handle it in Superleague. I questioned his signing at the time on the basis that we better props already on the books.

As i said, there are some in RL with an inferiority complex which has manifested as masochism. Why on earth does Peacock need to spend years of his life on the other side of the world to prove something to you? How does the British game benefit from having its best players not playing in the british game? Why should we be applauding people for choosing to play for one team over another? Why do so many people seem to spend so much time simultaneously creaming over some pretty average Aussie talent whilst constantly self-flagellating because of GB RL players if not inferiority manifesting as masochism?

regards, Petero Civoniceva

We constantly complain about the lack of coverage our game gets - perhaps if we able to compete with the Aussies at international level we might get some coverage.

Unless a larger number of our top players experience the intensity of the NRL we will see the same outcome as we have for the past 40 years - that is how the British game will benefit - simple concept really!!

Aussie talent has shown what is required - do you think keeping you best players in an inferior comp will help us be more competitive?

The british game wont benefit from having fewer quality players in it. Having a higher quality league will help us be more competitive. Having a lower quality league wont. We need investment in coaching and youth development and a removal on the reliance on and over-estimation of the talents of overseas players.

We can and do frequently produce teams which are competitive with Aus and NZ but we dont have the depth of player to win and to win consistently. That is the difference, the depth of talent. There is no doubt a player at the upper echelons of SL would be in a similar position in the NRL despite what the self-flagellators will have you believe.