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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Stop sitting on the fence!! If ya knownput it out there and if ya can't pm me!!! And who is this source!! It's not fookin watergate!! Don't get me wrong mate!! I'm not saying you are a bull $hitter but don't dance around the subject for gods sake you either know what happend or ya don't!! If it warrents sini leaving and couldnt be resolved between the players coaches and CEO it must be huge wouldn't you agree?'"
Basically I heard that Sinfield and Peacock had a arguement after the world cup that caused a rift between the two of them. Ever since Tony Smith went too Warrington, its been rumoured that Sinfield has been talking to Warrington, I totally agree with you there, I dont know why it couldnt be resolved, maybe they havent tried, but nobody knows that bit of information, its just rumours going around thats all, only reason im led to believe my source is because this person told me about Smith going to Union and Wasps in January.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Basically Ever since Tony Smith went too Warrington, its been rumoured that every Leeds player has been talking to Warrington.'" Edited for accuracy
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| Quote ="Frosties."Ever since Tony Smith went too Warrington, its been rumoured that Sinfield has been talking to Warrington'"
Paul Cooke got a six match ban for doing that (only Hull KR not Warrington.) When the RFL get involved it'll give some much needed credibility to your rumour.
Meanwhile in other news Smith is seemingly going to play out the rest of this season at Headingley despite what you posted on here.
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| Quote ="tvoc"A fair way to go but it's achievable given a fair wind.
As of today:
Lewis Jones: Played 385 + 0, Tries 144, Goals 1244, Points 2,920
Kevin Sinfield: 296 + 27, Tries 60, Goals 949, Drop Goals 19, Points 2,157
Season Points Totals for Sinfield: (since taking on the goal kicking duties full time)
2003 - 273
2004 - 323
2005 - 324
2006 - 223
2007 - 305
2008 - 293
1741 points over six seasons at at average of 290
2009 - 157 (on schedule for around the 260 mark after Leeds' early demise in the CC)
That would leave him around 660 short by the end of this season. He is currently under contract at Leeds until the end of the 2011 season which could leave him a season short (around 20 games) of passing Lewis Jones' total points record for the club.
He will be just past his 31st birthday by that point and every chance he'll extend again.
I really hope he doesn't give the opportunity away to re-write the Leeds record books. That would only further enhance his future legendary status at Leeds..... not too bad for a lad from Oldham.'"
Is that based on 3pts for a try? If so, it'll be a while longer before he beats the 'actual' points record
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| Quote ="tvoc"Paul Cooke got a six match ban for doing that (only Hull KR not Warrington.) When the RFL get involved it'll give some much needed credibility to your rumour.
Meanwhile in other news Smith is seemingly going to play out the rest of this season at Headingley despite what you posted on here.'"
I did say he was leaving though did i not? and also said that he could have played his last game for leeds after the WCC, if he would have decided to join Wasps early, which he didnt, so I was wrong about that one.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I thought Mitty broke that one??'" He did. posted it in February (the thread is a few pages back).
Unless Frosties can find a thread he originated earlier he's pi55ing in the wind looking for adulation.....
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| Quote ="G1"He did. posted it in February (the thread is a few pages back).
Unless Frosties can find a thread he originated earlier he's pi55ing in the wind looking for adulation.....'"
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| Quote ="Wheels"He should try his bedroom mirror again...'"
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Never pi55 on the bedroom mirror.'"
There speaks the voice of experience.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Never pi55 on the bedroom mirror.'"
Ahhh the age-old ancient Chinese wisdom. Deep.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"There speaks the voice of experience.'" A night on the mad mile in batley and Mr Soprano will pi55 in or on any-one's bedroom furniture.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Edited for accuracy
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Not really suprising for me that ANY club in super league would WANT to have Sinny, Mcguire et al at there club, they are back to back champs and great clubmen.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Is that based on 3pts for a try? If so, it'll be a while longer before he beats the 'actual' points record'"
He'll be in a position to beat the actual points record (by my estimation) sometime mid to late 2012.
Then the arguments can begin over who holds the 'adjusted point record' taking into account one point less for tries in the Lewis Jones era and one point less for drop goals in the Kevin Sinfield era.
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| Quote ="tvoc"He'll be in a position to beat the actual points record (by my estimation) sometime mid to late 2012.
Then the arguments can begin over who holds the 'adjusted point record' taking into account one point less for tries in the Lewis Jones era and one point less for drop goals in the Kevin Sinfield era.'"
I would find that argument irrelvant. Both achievements would be magnificent. A counter argument of the 3 point try would be that Jones was a back, and expected to get tries, where Sinfield is forward and his points have relied on goals.
Either way, great achievements from both.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I would find that argument irrelvant. Both achievements would be magnificent. A counter argument of the 3 point try would be that Jones was a back, and expected to get tries, where Sinfield is forward and his points have relied on goals.
Either way, great achievements from both.'"
The absolute record is (for me) the absolute record.
Too many variables otherwise. Jones' points came when the level of 'competition' was different to that of SL. An era of Yorkshire and Lancashire leagues rather than the largely merit based full time SL of today.
The points awarded for the different scores influence the style of rugby played. If drop goals were still valued at two points today (and only one point more for a try) would teams be inclined to pop one over at the end of an attacking set, rather than come away empty handed?
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| Quote ="Frosties."Mentioned on the Superleague Show today.'"
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| Quote ="Frosties."Mentioned on the Superleague Show today.'"
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| Andy Wilson of the Guardian said:
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| Lazy journalism reading forums like this.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Andy Wilson of the Guardian said:
[i"There's talk about Kevin Sinfield and people like that." [/i'"
Oh i heard tanya arnold ask their chief exec about myler and the salary cap,never heard sinfield mentioned.
Andy wilson is just a bitter pie fan anyway so i wouldn't really listen to him.
P.s Another p#ss poor effort by the bbc and their coverage of RL.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Oh i heard tanya arnold ask their chief exec about myler and the salary cap,never heard sinfield mentioned.
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That's because Kevin Sinfield wasn't mentioned by Tanya Arnold and the CEO would have ducked it if he were asked anyway just as he did re Richie Myler.
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| Quote ="tvoc"That's because Kevin Sinfield wasn't mentioned by Tanya Arnold and the CEO would have ducked it if he were asked anyway just as he did re Richie Myler.'"
I still think it's bollox!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I still think it's bollox!!
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A journalist said it so it must be true and he's spot on as there has been talk about it.
He didn't say it was a definate or anything he was just broadcasting a rumour.
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