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| Good grief, how bad are London?
A few nice breaks and some decent tries but lacked a fair bit. Hopefully lumbs injury isn't bad. He's seemed decent on that wing (albeit against poor opposition). Need a big improvement in forwards next week if we stand a chan
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| Got another 2 points won the game in first 40 without being too flattering but can only beat what's infront of you and all that.
Sinfield offered more in 1 game than Frawley has in 10 so he should be first choice 7 for the foreseeable imo, however depending on what Croft has done tonight we might be seeing Sinfield & Frawley as our half back pairing.
Feel for Riley Lumb doing his hamstring in first minute hopefully its not too serious for him.
Real tests coming up in next few weeks with away trips to catalans & saints the challange cup weekend gives us a week to recover and get some much needed troops back.
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| OK performance overall I'd say.
Liked JOC starting and Ackers coming on after, that seemed to work well.
Oledski unsung hero today, he played nice and direct, lots of work in D too, am guessing his stats will look good.
Croft is integral to anything positive we might do this year - hope he isn't injured and is fit for the next 2 games, we need him.
Bit worried about our size against Cats next week. Also on the wings Handley still isn't fit I'll guarantee - ribs are notoriously difficult injuries to heal from.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Interesting that Miller told Sky for his player of the match interview something along the lines that Leeds had the right people on the pitch and the right people in charge of the club. Looks like the players are rallying around Smith and want the fans to stop being a bunch of whingers like many on this forum.
I'm not getting carried away at all after beating London: from the run of games we've had this season IMO Smith has done enough to justify a bit more patience from the fans. It hasn't been great, it hasn't been as bad as some are making out, and I'm genuinely interested to see if we see a reaction or improvement against the better teams. Either way I think its time for the fans to just back the team a bit more...'"
Not quite sure what Smith has done to justify more patience from the fans ?
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| wow. beat the worst ever Sl team and out they come. let's see what happens next 2 games
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"OK performance overall I'd say.
Liked JOC starting and Ackers coming on after, that seemed to work well.
Oledski unsung hero today, he played nice and direct, lots of work in D too, am guessing his stats will look good.
Croft is integral to anything positive we might do this year - hope he isn't injured and is fit for the next 2 games, we need him.
Bit worried about our size against Cats next week. Also on the wings Handley still isn't fit I'll guarantee - ribs are notoriously difficult injuries to heal from.'"
Yeah agree with that Jim. Fingers crossed for Croft. That would be seismic if he’s out
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| I could have picked a team from the old Leeds and district league to beat London. But that’s not our fault that London are sub standard. Enjoyed the match ,Miller had an excellent game ,he looks to be a real find. Smith started to pass the ball to good effect instead of sticking up his jumper. Good all round performance from all the squad. Nice to see Sinfield senior up in the stand, his son showed some nice touches. Sadly the injury jinx strikes again, last few seasons we have had some dreadful luck. Unless things dramatically change we will have a threadbare squad for next week’s game.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Interesting that Miller told Sky for his player of the match interview something along the lines that Leeds had the right people on the pitch and the right people in charge of the club. Looks like the players are rallying around Smith and want the fans to stop being a bunch of whingers like many on this forum.
I'm not getting carried away at all after beating London: from the run of games we've had this season IMO Smith has done enough to justify a bit more patience from the fans. It hasn't been great, it hasn't been as bad as some are making out, and I'm genuinely interested to see if we see a reaction or improvement against the better teams. Either way I think its time for the fans to just back the team a bit more...'"
I am a loyal fan, have been well before super league and the golden generation. I Pay my money, if I see garbage on the field and from the coaching staff I will certainly call it out. Most games this season have been poor, coupled with a coach that’s out of his depth. Whatever the outcome of this season I will be supporting Leeds next season and hopefully the season after that. I wouldn’t place much emphasis on Millers comments, it’s the tried and tested response from all professional sports men/women when the manager is under pressure. Usually because the manager/coach is picking the team and the players livelihood depends on that. If another coach comes in you can bet Miller would soon be singing his praises.
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| So, we beat The Brassmoulders “A” team. I’ve never seen a team where all the players are the same body shape and equally as slow. The props could have swapped with the wingers and the scrum half could have played second row. It’s hard to glean anything against such poor opposition, but overall it’s a lesson that the physically dominant team will always beat weaker, slower opponents. It was good to see Smith has obviously realised that it’s pointless being an honest team in a dishonest sport, and has finally introduced the forward pass into our armoury. A useful tool, but best employed when players hit the line at speed beyond the passer. I don’t think we will have the intensity to use it against the better teams unfortunately.
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| Really poor London team, but that's not our fault.
It was an OK performance, but under no pressure for the most part.
Miller needed that game, he's been poor lately. Hopefully he can do the same against better opposition.
Lisone was good again. He's exactly what you need after 20-25 mins. A few direct runs and it saps the opposition.
Someone suggested he should start. Not for me. He's ideal coming off the bench. We need another one like him.
Croft showed some class, but again hope he can do it against the better teams.
O'Connor, Smith and McDonnell all good as well.
And Jack looks ready. Should keep his place. Hopefully we can work something out with Frawley at the end of the season as it hasn't worked out.
I think we can probably write off the next 2 games and get some bodies back for the very winnable 4 games after that.
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| A decent performance against a poor team.
Handley shows what we are missing with his pace and bringing the ball out of defence.
Miller still playing 7 a side rugby but was one of our top performers along with several others.
Personally I thought Ackers was not far off MoM.
Sinfield must keep his place and I wouldn`t be surprised to see Frawley alongside him next week if Croft is ruled out.
Decent crowd considering how bad we have been playing.
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| Quote ="chapylad"A decent performance against a poor team.
Handley shows what we are missing with his pace and bringing the ball out of defence.
Miller still playing 7 a side rugby but was one of our top performers along with several others.
Personally I thought Ackers was not far off MoM.
Sinfield must keep his place and I wouldn`t be surprised to see Frawley alongside him next week if Croft is ruled out.
Decent crowd considering how bad we have been playing.'"
Agree with all that, slight reservation regarding Sinfield next week , it’s going to be a bit physical. Would prefer Frawley, hopefully Croft will be fit, maybe have Sinfield on the bench see how the game unfolds. Loved the Handley try from the Miller break, Handley came like a rocket from way back. He really has blossomed into top notch winger.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"Really poor London team, but that's not our fault.
It was an OK performance, but under no pressure for the most part.
Miller needed that game, he's been poor lately. Hopefully he can do the same against better opposition.
Lisone was good again. He's exactly what you need after 20-25 mins. A few direct runs and it saps the opposition.
Someone suggested he should start. Not for me. He's ideal coming off the bench. We need another one like him.
Croft showed some class, but again hope he can do it against the better teams.
O'Connor, Smith and McDonnell all good as well.
And Jack looks ready. Should keep his place. Hopefully we can work something out with Frawley at the end of the season as it hasn't worked out.
I think we can probably write off the next 2 games and get some bodies back for the very winnable 4 games after that.'"
Thought Jack went well and he should keep his place. In fairness I suspect Frawley would have gone a lot better against last nights opposition. We'll find out a lot more about his progression next week. Just good to go to HQ and see a comfortable win. 13k in attendance is testament to the ongoing loyalty of the core support.
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| Disappointed we still had 8 errors and only marginally more possession. However some nice passages of play.
As others have said, next 2 games will be more of a test. There are different ways to look at it; our pack is actually close to first choice, although I think we miss Holroyd’s directness. Back line is all over the show.
If we can get into top 6 before Fus, Mom come back and Newman hopefully isn’t far off now, we’ll be doing okay.
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| A couple of random questions inspired by last night....
No idea how to check this but presumably a game where a team scores 8+ tries with all the scorers being different is very rare.
Also, what's the music on the "It's a Leeds thing" video?
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| Difficult to assess Rhinos performance against one of the weakest ever Super League teams. Thought the kicking game was better and some of the interplay between half backs was better. Even allowing for the low quality of the opponents Sinfield was playing against, I see no reason why he wouldn’t get a starting place in the next game.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Not quite sure what Smith has done to justify more patience from the fans ?'"
If the players are sending a message they really want to play for him after all the flak he's received (see Miller interview on Sky), shouldn't the fans get behind him as well, instead of making premature judgements?
Smith is actually doing what a lot of the naysayers are demanding - picking young players and dropping players who are struggling (Frawley). Does anyone who wants him out give Smith credit for that? We're also getting into a patch of the season when injuries are probably biting us harder than most clubs - call it an excuse if you want to pursue that agenda, but again not everything that transpires is down to the coach. It's not as bad as the training ground flooding excuses of yesteryear...
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| On the game itself, I thought Leeds were much improved after the Hull game. Fewer errors and a bit more composure helped a lot. You could sense that the players wanted to put in a professional display. No doubt some of the higher placed teams could have scored more, but we're still a work in progress. The performance was pretty decent considering Croft (who leads the team for try assists) went off leaving Sinfield as the only recognised half-back for most of the game; we also did well considering the very early loss of Lumb.
Leeds have actually been pretty unlucky in consistently losing outside backs to injury early in games in the last few weeks. These kinds of injuries can be pretty disruptive (see Hudds game) and they are a real test of our squad depth. Losing rotation forwards is arguably easier to deal with because it typically requires the other forwards doing slightly longer stints or making extra effort, rather than having to force disruptive positional changes.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino" No doubt some of the higher placed teams could have scored more.'"
Wolves 58 - 4 54 points
Hull KR 50 - 10 40 points
Wigan 60 - 22 38 points
Rhinos 46 - 8 38 points
St Helens 40 - 4 36 points
Catalan 34 - 0 34 points
Giants 26 - 6 20 points
Salford 12 - 4 8 points
Not a lot in it tbf (based on all the teams above us before last nights game).
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| Quote ="Rixy"Wolves 58 - 4 54 points
Hull KR 50 - 10 40 points
Wigan 60 - 22 38 points
Rhinos 46 - 8 36 points
St Helens 40 - 4 36points
Catalan 34 - 0 34 points
Giants 26 - 6 20 points
Salford 12 - 4 8 points
Not a lot in it tbf (based on all the teams above us before last nights game).'"
Not to be pedantic, but our margin was 38.
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| Quote ="YosemiteSam"Not to be pedantic, but our margin was 38.'" Now amended, thank you.
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| Quote ="Rhino at work"A couple of random questions inspired by last night....
No idea how to check this but presumably a game where a team scores 8+ tries with all the scorers being different is very rare.
Also, what's the music on the "It's a Leeds thing" video?'"
If you mean the video shown before the players walk out at home games its Wolfmother - Joker and the Thief
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| Quote ="Bang"If you mean the video shown before the players walk out at home games its Wolfmother - Joker and the Thief'"
That's the one. Thanks.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Thought Jack went well and he should keep his place. In fairness I suspect Frawley would have gone a lot better against last nights opposition. We'll find out a lot more about his progression next week. Just good to go to HQ and see a comfortable win. 13k in attendance is testament to the ongoing loyalty of the core support.'"
I think a lot of free tickets were handed out
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| If Justin Sangria ran as hard as Jarrod O'connor he'd be the best prop in the league but....
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