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| Quote ="tad rhino"other clubs want him. not just uk clubs either by all accounts. big decision for him. plenty to consider. perhaps if leeds had offered him a decent contract early instead of a very poor offer he may have signed early. whilst it's not about money it was, in my opinion, an embarrassing offer.'"
What was he offered?
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| on here? I don't think so.
I spoke to a youth coach I know at another club who have spoken to walker. they've offered double. he couldn't believe what leeds offered given he's so highly rated
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| Quote ="tad rhino"on here? I don't think so.
I spoke to a youth coach I know at another club who have spoken to walker. they've offered double. he couldn't believe what leeds offered given he's so highly rated'"
If that were the case he definitely, at the very least, needs a new agent, terrible negotiation tactic.
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| I agree about his agent. not exactly leeds friendly.
however leeds shouldn't give all youth players the same deal. some are miles better than others and worth that little bit more
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| Quote ="tad rhino"on here? I don't think so.
I spoke to a youth coach I know at another club who have spoken to walker. they've offered double. he couldn't believe what leeds offered given he's so highly rated'"
Translation - i don't know .
Was it the same contact that told you Burrow was going to Cas and Ablett was retiring?
What is a concern is that he says that he hasn't signed yet because he sees himself as a fullback and Golding has just agreed a long term deal. He looks real quality and although he still looks a bit lightweight to play every week i hope that he is selected on merit and it is made clear that he is a member of the 1st team squad. Hopefully that will help to persuade him to sign, if only for the next couple of seasons to begin with, to see how things pan out.
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| no I do know but you have a dig if it makes feel better.leeds pay all there juniors the same. always have.
if you think I'd betray a confidence like that on here you're deluded though. as for ablett and burrow I said at the time I'd been told by people in the media and the game that that was what was being reported. I simply posted it as such.
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| Sounds like it might be similar to 18 year old Josh Tymon who is currently a Hull city player and was offered (allegedly) a new contract on £500 a week by city but has, somewhat surprisingly, had his head turned by a counter offer of £7000 a week by stoke. These kids will never learn that money isn't everything (Unless you can earn a decade's real wages in a year)
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| Its a short career innit. Earn as much as you can.
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| It seems like Goldings five year deal has made him think twice about his opportunities here as a full back. Which is a shame because he's shown more quality in last week's game than Golding has all year. I know that sounds prone to hype and the test would be if he can do it week in week out. And of course he's too young for that yet. But I think if Golding had signed a 3 year deal walker may feel different.
Hopefully we can keep him which overall I'd say Leeds are pretty good at. Despite what gets written on here
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| Quote ="tad rhino"big dilemmas coming up for leeds. walker wants to play full back.leeds want him at 6. where does Lilly go? when's sutty getting a regular position?n
some decisions need to be made and stuck to. then players can develop better'"
Walker looks to have real class and abilities to become a star in several positions but I see him as a 6. Too soon to expect game management but his soft hands and eye for an opening could be used to best advantage in the most important position on the field and he would have less competition at 6 both at Leeds and at International level.
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| Golding should never have been given a 5 yr contract when so unproven. Walker has offered more this season than Golding.
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| According to Brian Mac's press conference today
Sutcliffe out for Sunday, Golding possible.
Keinhorst still a couple of weeks away from coming back.
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"Golding should never have been given a 5 yr contract when so unproven. Walker has offered more this season than Golding.'"
Lot of talk about Golding's 5 year deal. Does anybody seriously think he's got an iron grip on the 1 shirt that he won't lose? Or that Warrington etc. don't have the likes of Ratchford who will be even harder to displace?
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| I find it amazing how after 3 decent games Walker is now thought of as the best full back to have ever played for Leeds and then people on here start slagging off Golding.
FFS Golding when he came in to the side last year showed some pretty good attacking flair too.
He has worked hard on his defense and saved a fair amount of try's similar to Hardaker did for us.
Walker is 17 and is showing bags of talent and is a great prospect that Leeds should do all they can to keep.
But let's not stick the knife into Golding as he too has talent and has not let us down this season like some more experienced players have.
For me Walker will make a good half back and in the future will and should play in the same team as Golding.
So how about us getting behind both of them hey?
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| Quote ="chapylad"I find it amazing how after 3 decent games Walker is now thought of as the best full back to have ever played for Leeds and then people on here start slagging off Golding.
FFS Golding when he came in to the side last year showed some pretty good attacking flair too.
He has worked hard on his defense and saved a fair amount of try's similar to Hardaker did for us.
Walker is 17 and is showing bags of talent and is a great prospect that Leeds should do all they can to keep.
But let's not stick the knife into Golding as he too has talent and has not let us down this season like some more experienced players have.
For me Walker will make a good half back and in the future will and should play in the same team as Golding.
So how about us getting behind both of them hey?'"
well said.
some people here wrote Golding off before this season even started, so are quick to call him crap once again
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| Quote ="RhinoLaney"Best place to park?!
I.E not anywhere near the Stadium Car Park which takes you weeks to get out of?!'"
Best 2 options.....
Eccles Rugby Club -15ish minute walk to the ground.
Barton Airport - 10 mins max walk to the ground.
I'm too lazy to post any links but I'm sure you can find them online.
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| Quote ="chapylad"I find it amazing how after 3 decent games Walker is now thought of as the best full back to have ever played for Leeds and then people on here start slagging off Golding.
FFS Golding when he came in to the side last year showed some pretty good attacking flair too.
He has worked hard on his defense and saved a fair amount of try's similar to Hardaker did for us.
Walker is 17 and is showing bags of talent and is a great prospect that Leeds should do all they can to keep.
But let's not stick the knife into Golding as he too has talent and has not let us down this season like some more experienced players have.
For me Walker will make a good half back and in the future will and should play in the same team as Golding.
So how about us getting behind both of them hey?'"
Completely agree.
I would like to see Golding linking more with the attack but i just think he is following out the orders of Mac who seems to like his FB's to play a safety game bringing the ball back in the main, which is a shame as Golding is never going to be a meter maker with his size but i think he could have a big say in attacking plays given the orders.
You only have to look at Zak at Cas now to see this is down to the way we play. Zak had the advantage of being a line breaker so still stood out with us but it will be difficult for Golding to ever really stand out in our current system (whatever that is ). I would wager him being a revelation given an attacking role in a proper structure like Cas and Wigan have, but hey ho it is what it is with Mac while he is here, not gonna change now. As you say, his defence can't be faulted and he is still learning himself.
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| The use or non-use of Golding at full back is a bit bonkers really. With Hardaker it may have made sense to use him purely as a runner, because he's very good at it. But as you say, that will never be Golding's strength. In his early appearances he looked more like a halfback at fullback - playing to his strengths would mean giving him a playmaking role in attacking moves. Not doing so is plain odd.
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| McDermott told everyone what the juniors get paid after the WCC againt NQC - 12k.
If that is what Leeds have offered Walker then it is an insult and you cannot blame Walker for wanting away.
GH seems more savvy than that but he can be very stubborn and cut his nose off to spite his face e.g. the non return of Morley, Harris and Ellis.
If the rumours are true about Cameron Smith's contract then perhaps GH has learned from perceived previous errors of judgement.
Time will tell - I have no idea as to what has been offered but Walker is a special talent and as such will be coveted by many clubs failure to recognise that financially will be an error of judgement.
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| For me it's a clear as day that Jack Walker has more attacking threat than Golding. Walker (playing in the same system) looked to get involved in the attack a lot more. Now I'm not saying for one minute Golding is not good enough, far from it, but walker looks like a real attacking threat to me even at 17, he seems to be a bit more natural/instinctive in attack than Golding, but Golding is mighty in defence and he's some real talent also. Wonder if one of them could play on the wing or be a future half back so we could accommodate both?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"McDermott told everyone what the juniors get paid after the WCC againt NQC - 12k.
If that is what Leeds have offered Walker then it is an insult and you cannot blame Walker for wanting away.'"
I can't recall at any time McDermott saying what the Juniors are on. I can certainly tell you that the initial offer to Jack is lower than that figure, and why it is easy for other clubs to offer market value. There is a difference between wanting away though and looking after your future.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I can't recall at any time McDermott saying what the Juniors are on. I can certainly tell you that the initial offer to Jack is lower than that figure, and why it is easy for other clubs to offer market value. There is a difference between wanting away though and looking after your future.'"
He mentioned how much the two half backs earned compared to Jonathan Thurston's number. You didn't need to be Einstein to work out how much Lilley was on.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I can't recall at any time McDermott saying what the Juniors are on. I can certainly tell you that the initial offer to Jack is lower than that figure, and why it is easy for other clubs to offer market value. There is a difference between wanting away though and looking after your future.'"
Minimum wage for an 18 year old is £5.60 an hour so that is what GH should be paying as a minimum which where I got the c£12k from. Unless of course you are suggesting that Walker is an apprentice then GH could offer £3.50 an hour which equates to £7,280 which really would be an insult
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I can't recall at any time McDermott saying what the Juniors are on. I can certainly tell you that the initial offer to Jack is lower than that figure, and why it is easy for other clubs to offer market value. There is a difference between wanting away though and looking after your future.'"
Minimum wage for an 18 year old is £5.60 an hour so that is what GH should be paying as a minimum which where I got the c£12k from. Unless of course you are suggesting that Walker is an apprentice then GH could offer £3.50 an hour which equates to £7,280 which really would be an insult
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