Don't get me wrong, if he is to go at the end of this season then the decision needs to be taken long before October. I have a feeling that he will stay a couple of years (Lowes will go after this year) and any "failings" will be blamed on turnover of players.

If Smith is fit next week, I'd like to see Senior dropped and Watkins and Smith in the centres, just to make the point that no matter who you are you do not get a shirt without earning it.

I agree and I hope I am proven wrong, but unless senior is unfit he won't get dropped. He needs to be but I can't see it.

It's quite sad really to see him playing how he is, hope he doesn't taint his career with staying too long

thankfully for BM agar is still in a job so therefore he isn't the worst coach in SL

I posted exactly the same last year and it does appear that whilst he's fit he gets in although i hope that when have a fit squad and he's not performing he gets dropped.
We really need the TS aproach to Barrie Mc imo and say thanks you've been a legend but it's now time for some younger legs.

He must be really bad to coach Webb into chucking out forward passes like he did yesterday!

Time Senior moved to l/f or got moved on I think (please god not to us!)

I understand what your saying here mate but it's not like we're Salford or Wakefield. With the players we currently have in our squad any coach worth his salt should be getting the best out of them and I think we've seen virtually every squad member play much better than they did last night.

When class players constantly under-perform there's only one direction we should be looking IMO.

Spot on



Fortunately we seem to be coming to the end of Agar's tenure though and you guys are only at the start of McDermot's, you'll have to hope your Hetherington is less 'patient' than ours.

It seems some of you are falling into the same trap as a lot of our fans did in going down the 'give him a chance to build his own team' road, I'm surprised about that tbh because I thought with all your success you'd have higher standards.

its not only a question of having the worst coach but we also have the dumbest assistant coach. Anyone can sit next to their master and shake their head in disgust. Who will Hetherington move on first? Macca or Lowes?

You should get Iestyn Harris in as your new coach.

If Crusaders could afford to get rid of him they would.



And at least he is one of your former players unlike Macdermott.


Hey maybe thats why Macdermott took the job. He is some sort of '5th columnist' brought in by Bradford to make Leeds look even worse than the Bulls.

He's got to go,the structure and the tactics are all wrong,you have to earn the right to play and we are not doing that.I dont buy this nonsense that the players wanted BMD,it would be the tail wagging the dog.

Commenting on last nights game:



When?

I missed that as well. I saw a st helens team we should have been in charge of but didn't

How many times did webb pass forward?? mac did not coach that

I would say a chunk of first half





oh and still Agar is in charge of Hull so no we dont....still

I don't think Leeds played well what so ever but I can agree with McD, Leeds did look incontrol and always looked the team most likely to score up until the 3rd quarter. (that says more about the quality of the two sides on a whole) The only thing is Leeds' attacking structure, or lack of, wasn't upto standard to get over the line.

I will hold my judgement on McDermott until June/July when Leeds have the second and third piece of the Rhino jigsaw back and match fit in McGuire and Peacock.

McDermott won't get the boot until season end...so lets not spend the entire season moaning about him....like it or not it is very unlikely GH will sack him before October.

Leeds' defence was suspect last year when both Peacock and McGuire were playing (not that its McGuire's strength anyway). I wouldn't suggest that our defence is that much worse TBH - we've added to our woes by dropping a lot of possession in bad possitons through dumb play. That's not to say that last year's defence was worth much.

remember lads,I know you've been inconsistent so far but Saints deserve credit as many of you have recognised (they wanted to win more IMO) and it's far too early to get on McD s back - it's a big step-up for him so give him time,he will produce the goods when the players settle into his style

not sure about his assistant tho'............great player etc but .........

True, but i suppose he (mac) was always going to be onto a loser really. Taking over a team which has enjoyed lots of recent success and trying to change style of play. If we were say down the table for the last few years like Bradford he probably wouldnt be getting as much stick.
I just find our new style at the moment quite frustrating to watch

yeh, a bit of a poisoned chalice really,that's probably why Bluey jumped ship - he saw what was coming ,

it's transition time for you lot and Saints - Istill believe we will be in the top four despite everything !

Saints probably.


Leeds... not so sure.


Should make the 8 if they buck their ideas up a bit

His style? I suspect that the level of dropped ball, missed tackles and clueless attack when in the opponents 20 meter zone would point to "his style' being settled into already.
We had him for nearly 5 full years....only at one stage did the team look like they were getting it together....then something happened and we returned to boring 5 drives and a bad kick footie with no creative flair........he is the worst coach in the league IMO and Leeds should accept they have made a mistake.....start looking for a replacement now and as soon as they find one, get rid of Mac.

After a honeymoon period under your coach has well and truley gone to the wall I think you should hold any judging to your own poor showing. Confidence will be shattered it could be a long old season for Quins.

You could well be right about mac. Time will tell. But to be honest I would love five drives and a kick. That's what I think we need. Earn the right to through the ball around. But conceeding 30 points at home, again is just not good enough. Defence needs massive improvment! I always thought when Quins had it's full team out it looked a hard team to brake down. If Leeds can sort out the defence and get the basics right we won't be far off come October! If we don't sort those issues out we will finish sl in 5th or 6th and limp out of the play off's.

...THAT'S MY POINT!

We were tipped for the bottom 3 and we may well end up there yet, but Leeds have a pretty established team and a good conveyer belt of talent coming through (BJB is welcome back to play for us anytime...better than Tomkins by a country mile IMO).

You are 3 from 3 and have shipped 30 points twice at home already this year...you did that twice all season in 2010 and not once in 2009, 2008, and once in 2007.

I understand that players are out injured and some have maybe passed their prime, but 3 times in 4 seasons.....52 games has suddenly become 2 from 3 games.....alarm bells should be ringing at Headingly.

I would like to see us earn the right to throw the ball about as well on the back of solid work. I could almost accept the 30 points conceded at home if we were totally outplayed without any help from us however, we have gifted alot of these points, which is dissapointing.

Have you seen enough yet ?