One of the main reasons for the atmosphere being killed in the South Stand is people standing around and moaning about the atmosphere instead of singing of shouting. I am fed up being stood next to people who only moan about the team, the stand, the game.

Join in and maybe you would enjoy it more. Plus an improved team would help.

He's been banging that drum for years and not getting it right. This is the line in the sand and he has to get this right or its another round of the neverending session of Transition bingo.

The ground needed more seating elsewhere to compensate for the lower amounts of seating in the North stand to accomodate the corporate facilities. Not much atmosphere in the SS before the golden generation started winning. You can't expect fans to get excited about a sub standard product that lacks any kind of wow factor.

Totally agree and it`s getting boring now.
He has said the same thing and don`t forget his yearly trip to Australia where he will be talking to players in the NRL with the aim of bringing some top talent to the Rhinos for the forthcoming season.
Only 9 years of rebuilding so we can`t be far away.

Wrong ,
There was always plenty of atmosphere in the South stand even in the 80's and 90's

Correct ,

This is no different to previous drivel he has said in recent years

And there were plenty of days when it was absolutely flat. The atmosphere has always been great when the team are performing and it's no different now. The Hudds, Catalans and Saints games were all excellent atmospheres this year. If we start winning people will be singing again. Folks are fickle.

Exactly - how can fans be expected to be enthused when the team deliver such lifeless performances

Yep. The opening of the new SS has coincided with A) Years of underachievement and B) Covid. If we won five on the trot at the start of next year, it would soon be bouncing.

Hetherington is in over his neck after another diabolical season and the last two results needs to be addressed with sacking RS?

I don't think fickle is a fair description, why would anyone pay that much money each week to watch that crap?

2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023. GH Puts out the same statement. Well it's no longer acceptable.
We have no money to spend on players as we have 40 years to pay off the new South and North stands

Thanks for your amazing insights into how the finances of Leeds and Headingley stack up (you're writing gibberish, as usual).

We can debate if Gh needs to go or not, but what definitely needs to happen is a show of frustration and anger at the current situation at the game next week. If that’s not turning up. Turning our backs on the game or whatever, there needs to be a long loud message made to the board that this is it, we’ve had enough.

You are front line and centre the biggest fibber on this forum!

This year has been a huge letdown despite many - including me - having pretty low expectations, just hoping not to be involved in a relegation fight and seeing some exciting games. The vibe on here is worse than I can remember, and faith that GH has some kind of plan has seemingly evaporated.

GH isn't going anywhere. He'll fry Smith if he has to, and regardless of signings and agreements about how he was brought in to 'fix' the club for the long term, Smith will be under all sorts of pressure at the start of next season. The biggest worry right now for GH will be season ticket sales. We saw an uplift in crowds this year as a result of the back end of last season. Next year will see the reverse unless we have some signings to excite interest.

What I would say in Smith's defence is that he will have overseen an enormous change in personnel in a season and a half. A lot of senior players have gone or will go, and that was always going to cause ructions. The clearout couldn't have happened any faster due to contracts and the cap. So I can understand 'team spirit' issues. If we make the right signings I wouldn't be surprised to see far better performances next year.

The most worrying thing for me are the walkouts. I can't remember anything like it. In 1996 players exited because there was no money to pay them - this year they just seem to have wanted out. Maybe its just been part of the clearout we've needed for so long, but it suggests a team in utter turmoil. Perhaps the most surprising thing is that until the last two games we've actually been competitive?

From a known fantasist I'll take that as a badge of honour.

The reality is I just know how to read financial and legal documents. It's not complicated.

The club spends to the cap - it might not have elite players but it spend >£2m on the squad. How that is possible given what we see on the pitch defies all logic. Anyone who thinks Leeds don't spend the cap is delusional

We have no money to rebuild to squad as we are mortgaged to the hilt for 40 years with 2 new stands, and season ticket sales will dwindle now too

We also let Hardaker go. When we signed him short-term we went on the run that got us to the GF.

You just repeating the same rubbish doesn't make it true.

GH says we spend to the cap every year. Despite the dreadful underperformance I believe him on that. It just shows how badly its all been managed, and GH has to be responsible for that side of things ahead of any coach.

And lo it came to pass, as predictable as always were having another “Thorough Review” at the end of the season.

I did call it.

He needed to say something. I think he is gobsmacked that there was no response from the players this week. Watching with interest.