Sinfield was one of the greatest of all time kickers who wins you several games a season from his boot alone not to mention his conversion rate in pressure cooker situations. We were never going to replace that but i think Watkins is the best we have, don't see why we keep giving Myler a go, he is not even average.

I was pretty serious. All those would be in our first choice 17.

You are right about Golding who tightened our middle defence up and was effective in the hooker role on one of those rare occasions when Parcell was having an off night.

Great decision by Brian Mac to bring Parcell off. it turned the game. I've said for a long time he's a poser and when you break his games down he devalues the team. I can't believe you don't have a better kicker than Callum. Sort it or it will cost you more close games.

You do realise the number of 1st team players Leeds had missing tonight don't you??

McDermott wasn't happy with the ref, particularly with the 2 penalties against Watkins for a shoulder charge, and Briscoe for a tackle in the air. Apparently, neither were penalties based on what was agreed between the coaches and the refs in pre-season.

Again the ref was inconsistent Milner got away with a shoulder charge.

Not too disappointed least we showed some heart. My only disappointment was Delaney didn’t leather Gale. Can’t stand him.

Thought mcshane has come on loads since his leeds days

Haven't watched it back but on the night I thought Kendall was poor and gave us little. There looked to be a couple of Premier League style flops to buy penalties as well - don't want to see that creeping in.

I'd happily let you have this lot back if we had Garbutt, Cuthbertson, Ward and Sutcliffe available.

No idea what was agreed pre-season but challenges similar to Briscoe's have been penalised routinely for several years now including this one. Don't see how he can have any issue there tbh. Watkins' one, I didn't see too clearly; if it was a shoulder charge it was a pretty feeble one.

Not to mention Ferres, Peteru, Keinhorst, Dwyer & Ormondroyd. And I suppose we should count the missing forward caused by Galloway leaving. Quite an injury list.

Cas fans are counting watts as missing, even though he us suspended and only just signed for them.

I wouldnt count no ormondroyd as a loss. Don’t know why but feel a bit concerned with Peteru, I’m not fully convinced we will see him play again for us

Despicable first 15 minutes from us last night, ultimately it cost us the game, we simply did not turn up they did not have to work hard for any of their trys. After that superb dominated the game and really should have won.
But getting a bit sick of these regular round no shows against them, it’s embarrassing now. Need to give them a good hiding next time we play.

I was thinking that.
And with galloway gone and ferres just never playing we are essentially 3 players missing all starters in theory.

And really geeling that Stevie ward is going to have to retire young as well.

I think stevie ward will be fine. I’m hoping we are doing the right think with ferries he wasn’t fit last year hopefully when he does play he will be injury free this year

Thought our starting front row were poor, neither prop offered any punch whatsoever and parcell had an off night. Think singleton averaged less than 5 meters a carry.

Myler and walker were very good again, mylers had a great start to his leeds career. Walker should be first choice fb imo, goldings good but walkers a level above. Thought handley looked out of his depth early on but turned it around with a brilliant second half, think he's got some real interesting attributes and could be a top player when he fills out his frame, especially at where high balls wont be as much of an issue.

Im one of walters biggest critics, but thought he played well last night.

Fatty Ferris has been a waste of salary cap money. He doesn't look after his own body (likes the odd lager or ten) hence his fitness levels will never return. Loan him out to Bradford and let him prove himself. Answer is he is now Championship standard at the very best.

I read somewhere he couldn’t do any cardio training last year. Won’t write him off till I see him play this year

I was drained at the end & couldn't even raise a cheer. Though that might have been due to sitting 2 rows down from that feckin drum. How people deliberately expose themselves to that is beyond me. I thought Cas's backs were very weak, especially after Webster went off. I hope he is ok, he's had some bad ones. I hope the moron behind me who was screaming at him to 'get up you cheating bsatard' has second thoughts next time. Definitely 2 bonus points for Cas in a game I had pretty much written off.

I believe this is true, i remember Printer posted a link to a Ferres piece not long back and it sounded like he has never been right since joining leeds. I thought he was a great player for the couple of years before he joined us when he was actually fit and able to train right so still hold out hope we can see a couple of seasons of that kind of player now he has been given a long break.

We looked much better with Walker on, and interestingly I thought Golding did okay playing out of dummy half. I think Golding lacks a bit a physicality to carry the ball out from the back into their line regularly, so maybe the 14 shirt could be his spot?

Given our injury list who would you have changed in our starting line up?

Cas started very well with everything coming off for them in the first quarter with some good kicking and passing and nearly all the early possession. They were assisted by the ref, a couple of penalties but also a couple of defensive lapses. Delaney and Mullally came out of the line and left a gap for one try and Oledzki showed inexperience for another.

Walker is a class player and made one very good break but has to be rotated for his own sake. Golding is also a quality player and deserved his start and he had a very good game.

With Parcell lacking his usual sharpness in the first 20 minutes the momentum of the game turned around when Mac took him off and that was initially due to Golding moving to hooker where he tightened up the defence in the middle and put us on the front foot with dummy runs and distribution. He put in 26 tackles mostly against the Cas big men

Walker came on at the same time and was sound at fullback with one lovely clean break and good hands to get to the ball first and prevent a try. We are lucky to have two such fine players who can both play in different positions.

As it turned out the game was won and lost on kicking and the lack of a reliable kicker was the difference

Exactly why I wrote “watching from the stand” rather than “missing”.

Agree with Juan here.
Golding shored up the defence and put us on the front foot whilst Walker added that wow factor from FB.
I would have had Dwyer on the bench for Walters but saying that Walters didn't do too bad.
Handley like Leeds had a game of two halves and should keep his place.
Sutcliffe might have to settle for a place on the bench and play in the pack.
After Barrie Mac bigged up Singleton before the game you would have expected much more from him but he was poor as was Mullalley.
Watkins was very good apart from his goalkicking and we will lose far more important games if he delivers a 40% strike rate in the future.
Has Golding ever been a goal kicker?
All in all I would have taken a one point loss after those first 24 minutes.