Got to love Cas fans. All getting giddy about the treble, only to see their fitness let them down when it got a tad warm. Bless. It's alright nilling Leigh, but carry on bottling big games and picking up a couple of knocks and we'll see what you're really about.

According to Leeds fans you are our cup final which means we ain't doing too bad in our big games in the last couple of year.



Trust me I ain't getting giddy it all.....to the point where I'm looking at booking Holiday village in Turkey for 2 week on 30th September as the deals too good to miss. Think we are still punching. We have a few class players but too much ok players in our 17.

I'm not even convinced our digitally-enhanced rivals wont contrive to botch the LLS

Nothing wrong with the LLS. Shows you are the most consistent team. Even Brian Mac said he wants to win it and if Cas beat you tomorrow you won't be able to.

Don't think he said they was anything wrong with the LLS.

Is true though that a Cas win tomorrow should pretty much get them the LLS barring a massive collapse. Will still be favourites even if you lose but would still have some work to do.

Big night tomorrow for all the league. Obviously the Leeds/Cas game but we've also got Saints/Salford, the former needs to win to keep up hopes of catching the top 4. A Salford win would really strengthen their top 4 hopes. 4th vs 5th with Hull vs Wakey and Hudds vs Wigan, loser looking over their shoulder with slim chances of top 4 gone and the winner still with a slight hope.

Add in Wire vs Catalans on Saturday with the loser looking pretty much certain for the middle 8's then it's a really important week with all 6 games having real meaning to them yet people haven't really talked about it and instead moaned about new structures.

Can't see past a comfortable Cas win. Big Brian appears to be full of it though so we'll see.

Big Gadwin in for Cas, hope they're going to attempt to tackle him this time and not allow him to just walk through them.

Agreed. I'd love us to win it. Not awarded until the end of the 8s though unless I've missed a change to the format?

Correct. A loss for Leeds tomorrow puts them 5 wins behind us though with 11 to play. May be too much.

McDermott seemed to be in a very determined mood in the press conference. Almost like a chain of gears.

HAHA! Years of Cas fans tellin us Sinny was over-rated, now they say he carried us



As for the LLS, yes it is good to win, but it doesnt define your season like the GF or CC, just ask Wire fans

yep strange isn't it, we knew we had an all time great, no one else did but now they all have 20/20 hindsight vision

Always liked Sinfield , game changing player and even when his legs had gone , his rugby brain made up for it. I know we have this local rivalry but I would still prefer a top 4 of Cas Leeds Wakey and Hudds than the likes of Wigan . Good luck tomorrow and for the rest of the season .

Challenge cup is a poor achievement in comparison. You only have to look at this year for that, with the draw we have had. Can anyone honestly say if Leeds won it this year it is a better achievement than a club like Cas finishing top of league? That would be some barrell scraping.

Sinfield was a true workhorse who would put his heart on the line for Leeds. Along with his leadership skills he just made for a great player. Definitely think he is the type of player Leeds are missing as your team is pretty good on paper. However, I do think you need to change it up in the halves next season. Bring in somebody with some flare who can control the game for you.

Yes, winning the CC is far better than the hub cap. Ask Huddersfield fans if they would trade theirs from a few years back for it, i'm sure they would. Or would Hull trade their CC 2016 with whoever finished top...iv'e actually forgotten already who that was.

True. Whilst finishing top after 30 rounds is the "better achievement" if you asked most fans AND players they'd pick CC over LLS. For all our easy run in the cup so far, to win it we could still be looking at beating the current cup holders in a semi final and then the current SL champions at Wembley (which we've never done before) so it would hardly be a walk in the park to lift that trophy and two matches that would be tougher than any league fixture Cas have had.

bloody horrible place. full of Turks

As fans maybe but I bet if you ask the players which they would consider to be the higher achievement they would say the LLS

bet they wouldn't. Wembley win as opposed to what? it means nothing

Option A - win the CC and finish 2nd in the table
Option B - win the LLS but get knocked out of the cup early rounds.

If you asked the fans AND players to vote at the start of the year which they'd prefer then option A would not only win but it'd be a landslide.

I know we have all had this discussion on here many times, mostly us having to defend ourselves for the fact we have won the GF from outside of the top 2 a few times, but it still rings true. Teams know the champions come from the top four, not finishing top of the ladder.therefore finishing top is not a priority for the sides going in and every game is not as must win as much as it was when first got you the championship. So, although no.1 spot is nice, all it means is a home time to get to OT and nothing more, that's just the way it is. The GF >>CC>>>>>>>>>>>>LLS

LOB

Should be a great game tonight just a shame both sides are not at full strength. It promises to be a close match and lets hope the best team on the night wins and it is not down to bad decisions from the officials.

Leeds seem to be up for it but must keep their discipline and not be overeager.

Not in my opinion. But that wasn't the point raised, and as you say the merits of each has been argued to death previously.

The point was, which is the better achievement, a big club like Leeds winning a cup from just a few games, where the majority were lower division, or a smaller club like Castleford finishing top of a league over 29 weeks of rugby. I despair at anyone who says the CC is the better acheivement of the two, complete nonsense.

Fair enough if that is your opinion i have no problem with it, and i see it totally differently as i have pointed out so no point arguing any more on it.

I could see why to Cas especially this year finishing top would mean a lot and be a vindication of how far they have come but in general. It would be interesting to hear what the Cas fans would value higher a first CC win at Wembley since 1986 or the LLS?