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| Tonight at least showed we have some fight in us.
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| Good effort to grind that out in the end hopefully build momentum towards middle 8's. All Leeds aren't we!!!
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Rhinos Stun the League LeadersIt was top against bottom as Hull FC entertained a Leeds Rhinos side playing for form as they readied themselves for the middle eights.
The Rhinos gave a debut to new hooker to James Segeyaro who arrived at Headingley in a swap deal for last seasons Man of Steel, Zak Hardaker.
But all the smart money was on the Hull FC maintaining their top of the table position with just two more games left to the split.
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Rhinos Stun the League LeadersIt was top against bottom as Hull FC entertained a Leeds Rhinos side playing for form as they readied themselves for the middle eights.
The Rhinos gave a debut to new hooker to James Segeyaro who arrived at Headingley in a swap deal for last seasons Man of Steel, Zak Hardaker.
But all the smart money was on the Hull FC maintaining their top of the table position with just two more games left to the split.
READ MORE ON THIS STORY...
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| Thought Singleton was very good, and goal kicking aside so was Sutty.
Lilley had a bit of a mare, and it was no surprise our worst period of the game was when we moved burrow to hooker and played with one half.
Onwards and upwards (hopefully)
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| We've been losing games like that all season so it was a great effort. The defence was excellent for the most part, and although we struggled at the ruck for large parts of the game we battled hard, and kept Hull at bay, although to be fair their attack was very poor. Sneyd has an outstanding left boot, but he has zero passing game, and hardly takes on the line. It was o frustrating to watch the Leeds defence not pressuring him, he could've played in his smoking jacket!
Individually Garbutt was again our best player IMO, I think he's been our player of the year actually.
Lilley on the other hand was terrible. I'm not sure he has what it takes be a top level half, he looks nowhere near ready for regular game time at this level.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Individually Garbutt was again our best player IMO, I think he's been our player of the year actually.'"
Agreed, and as I've said elsewhere he should be skipper next year.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Tonight at least showed we have some fight in us.'"
Yep, nice to see with the middle 8s coming.
Show that desire and it will be a stroll in the park as you would expect.
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| Cheers Rhinos
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| No way Tierney grounded that ball at the end
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| Is the game repeated on sky tomorrow morning?
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| Watching from afar tonight on holiday. Watkins showed signs last week and great to see him really hit his straps tonight. Some fairly grim kicking and last tackle options. The lilley back heel was up with sutcliffe's 10 yard scuffed drop out last week.
However, the effort and commitment was beyond doubt. Garbutt ran very well but I think we overplayed that a bit at times when we could have been going wider to get Watkins and moon involved. At times I have wondered if McDermott was losing them / he was not getting through but they clearly all put it in tonight.
Anyone know why Ferres not playing? Is he on his bike for next year?
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"Watching from afar tonight on holiday. Watkins showed signs last week and great to see him really hit his straps tonight. Some fairly grim kicking and last tackle options. The lilley back heel was up with sutcliffe's 10 yard scuffed drop out last week.
However, the effort and commitment was beyond doubt. Garbutt ran very well but I think we overplayed that a bit at times when we could have been going wider to get Watkins and moon involved. At times I have wondered if McDermott was losing them / he was not getting through but they clearly all put it in tonight.
Anyone know why Ferres not playing? Is he on his bike for next year?'"
Ferres is injured.
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| Quote ="Barrie's Glass Eye"Thought Singleton was very good, and goal kicking aside so was Sutty.
Lilley had a bit of a mare, and it was no surprise our worst period of the game was when we moved burrow to hooker and played with one half.
Onwards and upwards (hopefully)'"
It was easily his worse game for us, timing and kicking were well off, but by all accounts he played really well for fev
I think it just demonstrates the flaws of dual reg as players can get confused and have there development stinted by playing different systems week to week
Can someone explain why he wasn't kicking goals though as he currently has the best percentage in the league? Was it cos of injury or just another coaching masterstroke?
Sutcliffe was good at the back, it seems like there would not be much risk in giving him the 1 shirt for a year or two where there is less pressure, before moving him back to the halves
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Sneyd has shown what we have missed all season an organizing 6 who can kick.'"
Where was he at the end though? In the last 10 Sneyd should have killed that game off but he doesn't have the tactical brain to be a top player
We make halves look good against us because we never apply any kick pressure
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Ferres is injured.'"
Cheers sarge
Good to see Delaney back grafting tonight. Appeared to be wearing no leg bandages which must have saved a fortune and helped reveal another tattooooo.
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| Thought we were excellent last night, make no mistake that was a good Hull side. For me the best performance of the season, clearly. We not only scrambled in defence, but actually defended very well throughout, which is different to some of our other performances. There was some real desire, aggression, and team work in that performance.
I was gutted at half time when they got that drop goal,many really annoyed as you could see it happening. But first five minutes of second half you could see something in us, and I was saying we are going to win this at that point, with a few around laughing it off. What we showed was something we haven't all year.
Though Garbutt, Moon, and Watkins were outstanding. Thought Achurch really put in a shift and should have shut up some critics. Burrow had an excellent second half when Segeyaro came back on. We showed what a difference it makes with a proper hooker in the side, it's simple really. Galloway kept going. Sutcliffe looked good ball in his hand, but his positioning leaves me shaking head, perhaps because what we have been used to, but I don't really notice oppossition fullbacks not there immediately. Hall followed up last week with another really strong show.
We still had some poor performers, but from an effort perspective, it is hard to critisize anyone on that game.
I really want to beat Wigan though.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Where was he at the end though? In the last 10 Sneyd should have killed that game off but he doesn't have the tactical brain to be a top player
We make halves look good against us because we never apply any kick pressure'"
He was injured for the last quarter. He may not be international class but had we had his tactical brain and kicking ability we could have been challenging again this year.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thought we were excellent last night, make no mistake that was a good Hull side. For me the best performance of the season, clearly. We not only scrambled in defence, but actually defended very well throughout, which is different to some of our other performances. There was some real desire, aggression, and team work in that performance.
I was gutted at half time when they got that drop goal,many really annoyed as you could see it happening. But first five minutes of second half you could see something in us, and I was saying we are going to win this at that point, with a few around laughing it off. What we showed was something we haven't all year.
Though Garbutt, Moon, and Watkins were outstanding. Thought Achurch really put in a shift and should have shut up some critics. Burrow had an excellent second half when Segeyaro came back on. We showed what a difference it makes with a proper hooker in the side, it's simple really. Galloway kept going. Sutcliffe looked good ball in his hand, but his positioning leaves me shaking head, perhaps because what we have been used to, but I don't really notice oppossition fullbacks not there immediately. Hall followed up last week with another really strong show.
We still had some poor performers, but from an effort perspective, it is hard to critisize anyone on that game.
I really want to beat Wigan though.'"
From the Sky touch line that's exactly how it looked to me too. Had Sneyd been playing for us we would have won at a canter.
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| It you were watching the game without knowing the league positions you would have thought it was a top 4 clash, you deserved to win and pretty much apart from the last 20 of the first half dominated the game, we were only kept in it because of Sneyd.
I though your forwards hit hard and ran well, but I though the two factors that we lost the game were your attacking kicking gane which we could handle and Hall who was excellent.
Though the new hooker went well, some of his passing was a buy wayward and but he looked dangerous and got you on the front foot.
You will win the middle 8's at a canter.
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| Got to disagree with Gotcha on a couple of points
1. make no mistake that was a good Hull side . No it was not and it is not
2. Achurch performance should shut up his critics . Great , that makes up for years of dross he has churned out ,
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Got to disagree with Gotcha on a couple of points
1. make no mistake that was a good Hull side . No it was not and it is not
2. Achurch performance should shut up his critics . Great , that makes up for years of dross he has churned out ,'"
Of course it was a good Hull side. I think you have to give more credit to the performance of Leeds here. Hull have shown enough this year to be regarded as very good.
I didn't say Achurch had made up for anything. But he has put in decent performances for a few weeks now without credit. Last night he played very well, and it deserves to be mentioned. People should comment on what just happened, rather than predefined views.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Got to disagree with Gotcha on a couple of points
1. make no mistake that was a good Hull side . No it was not and it is not
2. Achurch performance should shut up his critics . Great , that makes up for years of dross he has churned out ,'"
Must have watched a different game to you. The league table doesn't lie Hull are where they are on merit. Achurch had one of his better games apart for their first try, but then again we have been having those soft try lapses all season. All we need now is a decent class half, Sneyd kept them in the contest until he strained his hammy. After silly talk by some that we were going to be battered by their forwards I'm still waiting for that to happen;oh and we can only beat them if its raining excuse. You can tell it is still their cup final. Let see how Hull fair with Sneyd missing, cos I don't think Price is up to it any more.
On a final note we will be aright if we can keep bodies on the park.
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| Having had time to reflect I thought Leeds were very good last night - they made a good Hull side look average
The desire the team showed was refreshing given what had happened the previous week and the short turn round
On that performance they would have beaten the majority of the SL sides this season and Leeds didn't look like the team at the bottom of the table
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"1. make no mistake that was a good Hull side . No it was not and it is not'"
As Ablett said after the game, the table doesn't lie and that's as true for Hull as it is for us. You don't go on a winning streak and end up top of the log by mistake. They've played some really good stuff this year and ARE a good side, just didn't show it last night, primarily I'd guess as Ellis was missing.
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| Quote ="HRS Rhino"As Ablett said after the game, the table doesn't lie and that's as true for Hull as it is for us. You don't go on a winning streak and end up top of the log by mistake. They've played some really good stuff this year and ARE a good side, just didn't show it last night, primarily I'd guess as Ellis was missing.'"
I think Ellis certainly makes a difference, think like every team this year we are going through a bad patch, better know than latter in the season and for the firs time this year injuries are starting to hit us.
Hopefully saying ourselves for the cup semi.
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